तामाङहरु किन अहिले सम्म सबै क्षेत्रमा पछि परिरहेका छौ त ?

आज एक्काइसौ शताब्दिमा पनि तामाङहरू पछी परिरहेका छन् । के कस्ता कारणहरु रहेछन् त पछी पर्नुको, ती कारणहरु साथीहरूसँगको छलफलबाट जान्ने मौका पाइयो । मैले अध्ययनमा पाएको केही बुँदाहरु ........

१)धर्मको नाममा खोजिरहेको अस्तित्व:
तामाङहरु आँफूलाई बुद्ध वा बुद्ध धर्मको अनुयायी मान्छन् । तर पछिल्लो समयमा आउँदा कोही बुद्ध धर्मप्रती आस्था राख्ने, कोही क्रिस्चियन धर्मप्रती झुकाव राख्ने त कोही हिन्दू धर्मप्रती । तामाङहरू तीन तिरको धुरमुरे पारामा अाफूलाइ उभ्याइरहेका छन् । हाम्रा रितिस्थितिलाई हेर्ने हो भने आधा बुद्ध धर्मको अनुयायी र आधा हिन्दू धर्मको अनुयायी । भन्नाले सम्पूर्ण रुपमा न त बुद्ध धर्म-सस्कारलाई अपनाउन सकेका न त बुद्ध धर्मको नै । चालचलन हिन्दू धर्मसँग बढी झुकाव भएको हो कि ।

२)भाषा-जातीको लागि संघर्षका आवाजहरु उठाउनु:

अहिले चेतनाको स्तर केही बृद्धी भएको छ । आफ्नो अधिकारको लागि केही सचेत भएको सङ्केत देखाएको छ । जुन रुपमा हाम्रो भाषा सँस्कृति र परम्परा थियो, अनि त्यसलाई हिन्दूकरन गर्न खोजियो र लादियो पनि त्यसको बिरुद्धमा चेतनाको लहर आउनु जरुरी छ । तामाङहरू मात्र भर्‍याङ बनियो कसैको लागि तर भर्र्याङ् चढेर फाईदा लुट्नेहरु अर्कै परे । त्यसैले स्थिती जस्ताको तस्तै । यसलाई भनूँ, पिछडिएको एक समाज । जुन रुपमा तामाङ शारिरिक बलिष्ठ छन् तर त्यो बलिष्ठताको फाईदा लुट्ने अरु कोही।

३)अझै पनि रुढीबादी संस्कारको अनुयायी:

परिवर्तन गर्नै पर्ने केही कुराहरुलाई अझै निरन्तरता दिनु पनि पछ्यौटेपनको एक उदाहरण हुन् । अरुको दाँजोमा उभ्याउन नसक्नु, आँफैमा स्पष्टता नहुनु र आँफै प्रति आत्मबिश्वास जगाउन नसक्नु । भनेको कुराहरुलाई आँखा चिम्लेर विश्वाश गर्ने र नयाँ कुराको लागि आफुलाई प्रस्तुत गर्न नरूचाउने । केही परिवर्तन चाहन्छन् तर चालढाल भने उही पुरानै सस्कार-संस्कृतिको ।

४)शिक्षाको कमी:
अझै पनि धेरै प्रतिशत तामाङहरु अक्षर समेत नचिन्नेहरु छन् । जुन संस्कारमा छोरीलाई पढाईनु हुन्न भन्ने हाम्रो पुरातन मान्यता थियो, केही गाउँ-ठाउँमा अझै रहेको छ । शिक्षा बिनाको जीवन बुझाईको अ-स्पष्टता, आगामी भबिस्यको कार्ययोजनाको कमी, अरुले सजिलै ठग्न सकिने र आफुले कुनै ठोस् निर्णय लिन नसकिने ।

५)तामाङ हुँ भनेर गर्ब गर्न हिच्किचाउनु:
अाफ्नो परिचय भनेको भाषा पनि हो । कसैलाई भाषाको समस्या कसैलाई तामाङ हुनुको गर्ब छैन । जब सम्म मनको कुनाबाट आफु तामाङ नै हुँ र तामाङ हुनुको गर्ब महसुस गर्दैन, प्रगती सुन्य र परिनाम उस्तै ।

६)बिबिध कारणहरु:
एक त पछी परेका-पारिएका तामाङ समुदाय । राज्यको मुल धारमा उभ्याउन सकिरहेका छैनन् । थोरै रहेका बुद्धिजिबी बर्गका तमाङहरुलाई औलामा गन्न सक्छौ । तामाङहरू कदमा बलिया छन् तर बुद्धिमा भने अझै पनि बलियो हुन सकेका छैन । तामाङहरु अबस्य पनि सक्षम छन् तर क्षमताको त्यो खुड्किलो चढ्न माैका दिने कोही छैनन् ।


हरेक शुभ कार्यमा जाड्,रक्सी जस्ता चिजहरु प्रयोग गर्ने परम्पराको नाममा । हामी तामाङहरुमा दुई किसिमको समुह छन् :-एक समुह धेरै अगाडि र अर्को समुह धेरै पछाडि(त्यही त्यही सत्रौ सताब्दितिरको जस्तो ).... यी दुई समुह बिचको अन्तरलाई हटाउन सकेका छैन । यही कारण एक किसिमको असक्षमता देखिएको छ । अरुको बिरोध गर्छौ र अधिकारको कुरा गर्छौ तर हामीमा त्यो पदको लागि चाहिने योग्यता छैन भने, यस्तो माग राख्नु उचित हुन्न ।

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Dear Manik,
I have visited your blog www.ngyalalani.blogspot.com ,and was really appreciated research based articles related to our Tamang Community which enriched me lots of knowledge regarding our social, cultural and economical status in the present day. But to be honest, a bit disappointed on listening non-Tamang music as your background jingle however we are also sufficiently rich in our own Tamang music,I guess. Furthermore,your one of the article”हामी तामाङहरु किन अहिले सम्म सबै क्षेत्रमा पछि परिरहेका छौ त ? के हामीलाई अरुले पछि पारेका हौ त?” drew my attention to emit few words desperately towards your comment box/inbox. As far as I borrowed few historical data from Tamang scholar I could say, despite the facts you described in the articles, the following reason is one of the major factor that has been pushed us behind the age in every sector.
Following the Gorkhali conquest and the formation of the present-day Nepal in the 18th century, the land owned by the Tamangs was transferred in the names of the warrior class. The Tamang families were, then, often retained as bonded laborers to work on the land they previously owned. During the 104 years of Rana rule, the rulers and the courtier-class used the Tamangs as menial labourers. They were also prohibited from joining the British Gorkha regiments in India, although the men belonging to other Tibeto-Burman communities such as the Gurungs, Magars, Rais and Limbus were permitted. Well into the 1950s, the Tamangs were also prevented to join their own government administration and the military. Historically, the Tamang people settled in the strategically important districts surrounding the Kathmandu valley. Feeling threatened by their encirclement, the Kathmandu rulers brought them forcibly under their rule and exploited them in such a way that they could not make a significant socioeconomic progress in the Nepalese society until recently. Because of the centuries of economic deprivation, political discrimination, and social marginalization, the Tamangs also felt inferiority complex, and hence could not rise up for a change.
Rana Lama,The Netherlands.

Sushma Tamang::
phyafulla Manik
We tamang are backward in all sectors due to poverty and lack of education n lack of opportunity.Why are tamangs always involved in all mischievious acts like murder,theft,drugs dealing and so on....it's becoz tamangs are compelled to do so otherwise who likes to do so ,this is all becoz of poverty.Now it is our duty to create an awareness among our people.If we tamangs dont help our own people then w't do we expect from other caste after all we are being discriminated by all in every field.So we tamang should have a strong unity and should help each other in all possible ways.we should also have that feeling within our self that we are tamang.....and we are proud to be tamang.If we tamang are ashamed of ourself to be called as tamang then our community will never prosper in anything....So my advice is that we can do something for our community if we all go hand in hand..like making small school in remote areas for tamang,educating them.Becoz it is through education that people becomes aware of and have a better thinking of w't is rite n w't wrong.Next thing is that we tamangs are also not given an opportunity to do something to expose ourselves.Afterall source force ka jamana hai.We tamangs do not have people in higher post....so it's difficult.and even though there are some renowned tamang people they give a damn to poor people and are bg giving lecture blah blah blah.....and hav not done anything....It's easy to say i'll do this n that but one needs to prove it...one should not forget our root...Ek ek jana tamang ko unnati bata ta sabai tamang ko unnati huncha ni.Lets all hope for the best n lets hope that tamang reach the peak in all sector...
lastly love tamang ,feel tamang,promote our culture n uplift our people.

Manik Lal Ghising Tamang::
Tamang are now trying to compete with others to regain their snatched rights. That's why we can proudly say, we are not so backward but we are in the process to move forward. We Tamang are the culturally riched community and so believed to be the most creative community. Let me put forward some examples, just like they can flow their all happiness and sorrows in words with the melodious songs. They have really the good and mannered scaled of singing styles to touch the heart of all. They have saved cultures on this suppressed world of other higher casts and religions. This is their great deeds and everyone should appreciate. They have delicate emotions and love as that of lotus blooms for all, on the depth of their hearts. They are uneducated and innocent that's why they are used as the weapons for evil works like murder, drugs dealings and so on..... But its unfortunate that this very riched and higher community are considered to be the lower in our society and let them more backward...........

I also support with the views of Deependra that we Tamang are not so backwards now. This is because of the gradual change in minds of Tamang people and their all attempt to rush themselves in the way of beautiful life. This is because of awareness that we provided for them to be awaken from the dreams of dreamland to real land. This is because of the affinity to each other to create awareness with the coordination of all we Tamang community . And yes this is because of the beautiful hearts and supportive hands of all Tamang for new dreams to realize in reality......

I appreciate the expressed feelings of Sushama too. You have put really the great words for all we Tamang people to expose themselves in every possible ways to grab opportunities for good deeds. We should try to get the highest post of renowned person by ourselves. We should establish this community as the superb one and these all are on the arms and solders of all tamang people. Lets hope, as the Deependra had said, we are not backwards really and opportunities to say the words above would come true to all Tamang and would would give rise smiles to all the beautiful lips of Tamangs......... No more desires than this at all.......

m@n$ub@ t@m@nG::
ya that the thing bother meh as well sometime .why we r behind ...but everyone know why we are behind juz due to lack of knowledge n poverty...

time has changed everythin so i can see the educated tamang people thou its hard to find in numbers but ....we r movin ahead hope one day we gonna rule ..

Tamang are becoming more consious about their right now. Mansuba ji, you put right views on the petiable conditios of tamang. Thats why its necesorry to aware all the tamang people and it is only possible by the people like us to aware them. We should not be away from them about to give and tell the importance of education. If we have this skills with us, then it will make esier for us to travel in long distance of progress and help to become the well riched family in the society. The poverty itself tries to run away from us.

And if as you said, we remove these problems from us, then no tamang will be the victim of this suffering. Thank you Mansuba ji for your valuable comments with regards...

m@n$ub@ t@m@nG ::
well,manik lal jee,
thanks for ur concern as well its nice to see all da tmg people being more concern abt this issues...ya as i told earlier dat its all due to lack of education ...n now these dayz i can see even in the rural area people started goin to da school which makes meh feel happie to see some changes in da society esp on ours society so ..hope fully one day everythin is gonna b fair n da way we hopes....

Darshan::
मलाई लाग्दैन हामी तामाङ जाती त्यती backword छौ भन्ने।। समय र परिस्थिती अनुसार हरेक जाति,हरेक समाज र हरेक जात मा केही पछौटेपन त हुन्छ नै।।

मलाई लाग्छ नकरात्मक सोचाइ राख्नु भन्दा पनि बेसी केही नयाँ गर्ने तर्फ आफ्नो कदम बढाएमा बरु भविस्य सिङगारिएर जानेछ । किन यस्तो किन उस्तो भन्ने कुरालाई अलिक पछी छोडेर लु येस्तो पो गर्नु पर्ने भनेर कदम चाले बरु केही सुधार हुने थियो कि।।

जे होस् मेरो ब्यक्तिगत सोचाइ हो यो । तर तपाईंले मुद्धा धेरै उठाउनु भएछ नि.. म त भारतको बासिन्दा हुँ । दार्जीलिङ तिरको तर मेरो बस्ने गाउ ठाउँमा तामाङहरु धेरै सभ्य छन् । त समाजको उच्च ओहोदामा पनि तल्लिन छन् । त्यसैले भनेको मैले कि आफ्नो आफ्नो experience अनुसार पनि सोच बन्निन सक्छ, जहाँसम्म मैले देखेको छु । तामाङ दाजु,भाइ र दिदी बहिनी बरु सोझो हुन्छ, ढाटछल गर्नु जान्दैनन् तर पछौटे पनि चाँही छैनन्।। खुसी छु एउटा तामाङ् जातीको भएकोमा र अझ खुशी छु एउटा स्वछ ह्रिदयको मान्छे भएमा ,गोर्खाली भएकोमा नेपाली भएकोमा........

धेरै धेरै धन्यवाद दर्शन जि!!!
तपाईंको सन्देश पढेर साच्चै गर्वले यो मन गदगद भएको छ । हो म पनि सहमत् छु तपाईंको बिचार सँग अनि तपाईंले भनेका कुराहरु वास्तवमै सहि पनि हो । अहिले हामी तमाङहरु त्यत्ती पछाडि छैनौ र जुन रुपमा हामीलाई सादियौदेखी पछाडि पार्दै आएको थियो, तर त्यो स्थिती छैन । समयले धेरै नै फड्को मारिसकेको अवस्थामा तपाईंले भन्न खोज्नु भएको बिचार सच्चिकै सान्दर्भिक छन् । तमाङहरु बिस्तारइ ठुलो ओहोदामा पुग्न सफल भएका छन् । यो सबै शिक्षा र चेतनाको कारनले हो ।

तपाईंले भनेजस्तै अब हामीले नकरात्मक कुराहरुलाई त्यागेर अगाडि बढाउनुपर्छ यो तमाङ समाजलाई । तमाङ भएकोमा गर्व गर्ने प्रशस्त मार्ग हरु खोल्न सक्नुपर्छ । यसबाट प्रत्येक् तमाङमा आत्मबिश्वास बढ्नुका साथै सफलताको बाटोतिर लम्किन सफल बनाउछ । दर्शन जि मैले यो बिषय किन राख्न खोजेको हो भने नि, अब हामी पछी छैनौ र हाम्रा अगाडि कैयौ चुनौतिहरु खडा छन् । यो तमाङसमाजलाई अगाडि बढाउन तपाईं हामी जस्ता सचेत र केही जानेका ब्यक्तिहरुको नै खाचो पर्दछ भन्ने मलाई लाग्छ ।

तपाईं चाहे भारतको तमाङ होस् या अमेरिकाको होस्, तर के मात्र सोच्नुपर्छ भने, म तमाङ हुँ भन्ने भावना । तपाईंलाई यसले गर्व गर्ने प्रसस्त स्थान हस्तान्तरन गर्छ । हामी आफ्नो जात प्रती सधैं उत्तरदायित्वबोध हुनुपर्छ ।

Meena lama (Golay)::
No, I don't reckon that we tamang people were/are/will(be) backward. This is just the legacy of our low thinking and the discrimination. We were not justified either. Comparison is only the key, that let be anyone backward or forward. We must keep our head up, think about the future, make our fundamentals the best. This will be a real boost up factor, we ain't be thinking whether we were backward?

Vijaya Tamang::
I am really happy to express my views for this topic...whatever the reasons behind tamangs to become backward i think first most important thing is we should have unity between tamangs wherever we are.We can serve our comminty in different ways however we can depending on our capacity.Speically tamangs who are educated, ,working abroad,young generations ,working in good post should try to do some good work for tamang community and i think little help can make lot difference in the community..

like chautari is one of the good platform for tamangs as far i no than other tamang site which is better than the uk tamang site and i have seen some of my motivational enthusiastic frens ...really .happy to meet u all...i wish more and more tamang people no bout this site ..so there may be many people like me who thinks the same for tamang community ..so why nt we do something for tamang step by step....

Thank you very much Bijaya ji for your valuable words....

Yes thats the theme of this topic that unity of tamang is the most important than any aspect. Tamang people can not be considered as the uncapable but only the fact is depriving them from their rights and oppertunities. The unity can create the great encouragements to move forward us to grab beautiful success/achievement/progress/goals/destiny/ whatever it be thats why it should be stronger than what we expected it to be!!!

The important matters that you raised is also be considerable that who are in good positions need to take a look to this back lagged society. As you said their small help also would prove to be the milestone for the developments of this whole community in the smooth way. Yes, this also can be the best idea to move our society in the long run ot progress.

And it is also the most important to be known And it is also the most important to participate ourselves in global world of modernisation. To stablish our status the higherAnd it is also the most important to participate ourselves in global world of modernisation. To stablish our status the higher, we must rush ourselves to extend the hands of brotherhood and that will give rise to the beautiful tamang community. As this chautari have become the common platform to all tamang people. Ok, its really nice to know your great feelings towards the all brothers and sisters of tamang people..... Thanks anyways for your inspired words.....

Thank you meena ji!!!!

Yes, if you have that kind souls or spirit to be great being a tamang then no tamangs are backwards nor will be in the futures too.. Comparision gives the actual status of all things and beings. Comparision gives the definition of measurements in sciece and with the help of comparisions, we clearly come to know our real status and conditions.Without comparision, we are not able to separate ourselves the best or worst than from others ..... Let me extract very few examples to clearify my things here:-

We tamang community were not backward nor now nor will be as you said. I also have mentioned about the quality of tamang that how much quality we have!! They can flow their all feelings in beuatiful selo and songs, this is the true quality of tamang need to be concerned with. But its our bitter true which is still standing as the great problem. As Nepal has come out with the devotion/contribution/sacrifice of all people and mortgaged their life for the beutiful dreams of all new nepal. As a result the rebelian or the revolutionary party, the maost, come to join hands for the peace process. Thousands of Tamang people were lost their lives and homes for the nation. But their great contributions for the nation are not considered as great. The supreme cast called the bramin or bahun keep on continously put their rights and only used the Tamang people as the weapons for the war of 10 years.

They are now in the highest post of prime ministers, ministers and other valuable posts. But they didn't give any chance and post for the tamang people or the community. Their contributions for all are vein or useless anyways. We can definitely find the tamang people on the lower posts just like the riksha puller or porter or slaves or PN or assistance........... This is all because they are innocent, uneducated or poveryty. The povery let them to involve in different mischivious acts like murders, thieves, druggist, loafers...... Thats why, we can see the image of tamang people clearly the how they are compelled to live with the qualityless life...........

We also have to be filled proud because we have great tamang personalities in our society and they are the sources of inspirations to all. Just like Gopal yonjan, Aruna lama, Paarijat and other persanalities. But these few numbers are not sufficient for us to represent and more such srastaa are the demands of all tamangs. We can learnt on such discussions also thats why it can't be called as the nonsence discussions. We should try to flow our words in works, for that the supportive hands of all tamang people are the most.

You have put really great words for the upcoming plans of tamang. Thank you very much for your all cares for tamang indeed....

The queries and discussions can create and also provide great meanings. Sushma ji, you are right on the views that you expressed for the concerned topic for the discussions. The only fewer reputed names do not work and can mobilize our community on the higher degree of reputations. And you are also right that we are hugging and joining hands with 21st century. These kinds of discussions may not give you any importance but can't cover or hide the fact bitters which are standing in front of us........

I'm not against of your views that we Tamang are now there on many higher posts. This is true and on the today's scenario, it is very important to talk and let ourselves to prove the best by our very well deeds. It is the demands of present time to increase the more reputed names. Time has transfigured everything in beautiful ways and every dreams in new hopes for bright days for Tamang as you said.......

If you have good knowledge in history, then you may know that there were many Tamang people who were deprived from their rights...... Just like,they were not allowed to take the post of British army and let them just working as the lower posts just like in the PN. Now, we are just reached to this condition, its because we are aware of our freedom and rights. The Tamang community of 21 century have become morer and morer thrived themselves for the success. These are outcomes of our level of thinking and merits. You are capable but its not sufficient for our community. That's why this discussion is not for blaming and flattering with anyone emotions and feelings but just to awake the people who are still sleeping. and to realize their dreams in real land. That's it.......

Bloodshed of Tamang people were there to succeed this 10 years of war and always used to concern for the nation. But what did they get??????? nothing and gift of empty to their hands. After this succession, only the Brahman are on the higher posts of ministers and other reputed posts. Susma ji, isn't it the domination? Is it possible to say that we so forward? If you want to talk only with the people of 21 century, then please no need to interfere to anyone's feelings. The intension of this discussion is just to aware Tamang people to grant the reputed posts...........
Thank you very much for your valuable comments indeed. It will make us more conscious about our rights and everyone will get the post of honor just like you..... Thanks.....

Sushma ji,,,,,,
I'm defeated with your intellectual views and questions but still trying to satisfy you with my words. Yes, there are many things to be suggested. They should change their mind to make good status in the society no doubt at all how much they would success. They should fight for their rights so that they could feel relieve and that the Demand of Tamsaling has raised by the Tamang people to assure their all rights. Its not time to stay just with the suppressed by supreme casts. This time is not for the segregation and domination, but with the courses of time, we should join hands together. Every Tamang should be given educations and knowledge..... If we are succeeded to increase the literary level of This back lagers, we definitely get out goals to stain supreme power. Its all these problems because of uneducated and poverty. And if we eliminate these kind of things, then no Tamang should be the victim of these problems. To the matter concerned on the logic, I'm sure this community will definitely be the stronger than ever......

My views are not against the these back lagers, but its for the encouragements that time has transfigured us a lot and to have a good life in upcoming steps. This is the minimum basic needs of every people to join hands to mouth different is just what they eat or quality of food.You will still find the people of such type in the remote areas, and got any chance to visit to the area, please inform me......

I was just extracting the example to make the things cleared to you. Its not the imaginative and fact less matters, but known it by studying some book of history of Tamang. They were not given any chance if they were of the cast Tamang, so many Tamang people used to register their name on the army post by changing their cast "Tamang". Tamang people were brave from the time of ancient but used to deprive from their rights and now the context has been changed a lots. Tamang are becoming more and more conscious about their rights and as i already has also informed you about that Tamasaling..........

Everyone has got their own dream. Everyone wants to get the supreme posts. Everyone has desires to spent happiest life. But not my dream is to become British army, but this is for the person who thinks british army is the best job for them to realize their dreams......

के हो सुश्मा जि ब्रिटिश आर्मी साह्रै मन पर्छ कि क्याहो ? अरु कुरामा भन्दा पनि यसै कुरामा जोड दिराख्नु भा छ नि । Anyways, thanks for your all intellectual words indeed. I'm really proud to be a Tamang because we have also such intellectual personalities in our society.........

Good Day to Manik Ji and All Tamang Friends,
First of all, I'm so glad to see all Tamang Friends who are trying to put up their opinions and feelings about our Community on this Platform "Tamang Chautari" which is the best place and way for us to share our ideas and suggestions globally in a way of lifting up our Tamang Community.
Now, let's talk about "Why are Tamang people backward in every sector?" I had been through most of the discussions posted by some of our friends. I really appreciate of those discussions. But I think, we should removed this concepts of asking ourselves "Why are Tamang people backward?" as a new generation of the Tamang Community because I'm sure of that we Tamang are no more backwards if we started to study well the Individual Tamang's Profile in Nepal's history. We can say that our Tamang People are loyalist and honesty to their work and country. This is why those Brahman People who are selfish, had got opportunity to grab the superior position in most of the sectors, specially governmental organisations. I think, we Tamang are now already awake and aware of every situations that country is facing and ready to grab our rights and even to fight for that because if we try to search the Individual Tamang's Profile, we can find hundreds of thousand Tamangs who are on high level in financially and socially in private sectors. I know, this will be possible only by unifying our community globally and supporting each Tamang individual to lift up their life status Socially, Financially and Spiritually.... etc. which directly helps us to make our Tamang Community Pyramid more strong. So, we should think, how we can move our Tamang People forward, instead of thinking, why Tamang People are Backward and we should always look ahead to our Destiny to move forward our steps rather than looking at the back which may lead us backward. To make it possible, the most important thing is to educate our Tamang People on foundation of our Community and it's Destiny. We should never forget that "Unity is a Power" and "The Power Leads to Success." So, let's start working together and make it happen!!!!
"REMEMBER THAT NO TAMANG PEOPLE ARE NOW BACKWARD"

"Jayaman S. Lama (Moktan)"

Thank you JAYAMAN LAMA ji,,,,,,
for your very very very valuable comments.
It really should have touched to everyone's feelings and emotions and they might have great heart to become Tamang themselves. Me also having the great souls and have proud on your those beautiful words for the Tamang heart and souls. This is what the discussion want to find out. And I'm also very grateful to all my tamang friends who have really the great heart and paid their attentions to some words of Tamang. You all have the really good spirit for Tamang.....

Yes, i agree with the view of you JAYAMAN LAMA ji!! This tamang chautari had given us the opportunity to know the inner Depressed and suppressed of Tamang people. So, i also take this as the beautiful platform to perform ourselves in beautiful plays. I also have believe on my own self that this will prove to be the best platform for all Tamang uplifting globally. You have really the great souls for this back lagged society thats why you can stay to everyone heart.........

The discussion is not for the nonsense or valueless talks but for the upliftment of all Tamang globally. As you expressed what were our conditions and how it has been changed gradually to this stage of young generations are true. Yes, its not time to feel ourselves as the guilty, but time to change our minds and souls for the best deeds. Tamang people were very honest and loyalty, thats why they are not in the prime posts. But the Brahmans, who can cheat, are now in the higher posts. Now is the time to change our minds and souls to get equal opportunities. We Tamang also have good capacity to involve ourselves to face any challenges. Especially, we young generations are able to do in good manner as others.

सम्पूर्ण तामाङ समुदाय जुर्मुराउनुपर्छ अब । राष्ट्रलाई खोक्रो बनाउने ती हातहरुलाई काटिदिनुपर्छ अब । दुःख लाग्छ गहिरो यो मनमा जब सम्पूर्ण अधिकार, एकाधिकारको रुपमा प्रयोग गरेको देख्दा । १२ वर्षे जनयुद्धकोक्रममा हजारौं तामाङहरुले हातमा हात मिलाएको इतिहास हामी सामु ताजा प्रमाणको रुपमा मानसपटलमा अझै छ । तर मिहेनत गरेर फल पाउने आशमा भौतारिरहेको ती हातमालाग्यो शुन्य भनेझै भएको वास्तविक तितोसत्य हामीसामु छन् र ती भरोसामा रुमल्लिएको आँखाहरु टुलुटुलु हेर्ने शिवाय अरु केही काम र अर्थ छैन ।


तामाङ ग्योइदा माया लाबा
मोक्कोन छामे ब्योन दोर्जे
र्हाङ्लान रीमठिम् छार्नालाअी
र्हाङ्लान ग्योइदा ज्येनालाअी ।


आरे धुइ ल्हाना ह्याङ्थेन
ह्यार्बारी कोशीस लादोला
ह्यार्मा ह्याङ पाप्सामी
अर्कुसे या तेन्दोला ।


म्हेन्दोला फोले दोसी छार्गे ह्याङ
सेमरी दुङाल् तासाइनोन
दिनी दोसी जम्बुलिङरी फेगे ह्याङ
म्हिसेर म्हिसे लासाइनोन ।


ग्योइदा पाङ्बारी ह्याङ दारेम
कोङ्बा युङ दोसी राप्तोला
आज्याबा चिज पोबारी
ह्याङ्से दरेम लोप्तोला ।

दुङाल् सेमरी मुसाइनोन
फ्याङ्बा नाम्गेला सेम थोगे
आज्यबा ह्याङ्दा तासाइनोन
लानी दिनी राङ्लासी ह्याङ फेगे ।


ग्यामरी पुजु मुसामी
लीदोला थेदामी फ्योक्तासी
थेदामी फ्योक्सी आलिसाम्
थेसेम ब्लोला ह्याङ राङ्दान ।

Sukra waiba(sagun)::
no sushma 90 %tamang are not a qualify by education,but u r in 10% so u repply that .that all nothing say's u can search comming day which condition about tamang not a 10% tamang try to covered 100% tamang ok .thank u .

कसरी अझै पनि तमाङ पछाडि रहेछ त भन्ने उदाहरण भेटे । कुरा हो नेपाल टेलिभिजनबाट प्रत्येक शनिबार राती ९:४५ बजे प्रसारण हुने कार्यक्रम "श्रम र शिप" को । जहाँ मजदुरहरुको कथा र ब्यथाको उजागर गर्ने सवालमा यो कार्यक्रमले धेरै मान्छेको उद्धार पनि गरिसकेका छन् । मेरो आखा त्यही टेलिभिजनको पर्दामा टक्क अडियो । नाम थियो बिरबहादुर तमाङ । काठमान्डौ आएको १९ बर्ष पार गरिसकेछन् । एउटा कम्पनिमा आफ्नो पुरै १९ बर्ष लगाएर लगातार काम गरी नै रहे तर तलब भने त्यही पुरानै । सरकारले कर्मचारीको तलबमा गरेको बृदि खासै उनमा लागु भएको थिएन । उनको तलब थियो ३००० मासिक रुपमा, त्यत्ती सानो रकमले कहाँ नै पुग्छ र पर्याप्त ? सरकारले बृदि गरेको तलबभन्दा १३०० कम । हिसाब गर्दा उनको तलब हुनुपर्थ्यो ३०००+१३००=४३०० तर ३००० हजारमै चित्त बुझाई राखेको थियो । नखाउ भने जागिर हो,अरु के काम गरेर पेट पाल्ने चिन्ता अनि खाउ भने गर्जो टार्न पनि नपुग्ने पैसा । रिकसा पनि गुडाउथे तर ग्राहक नआइदिदा अर्को चिन्ता । साहुलाइ पैसा बुझाउनुपर्ने अर्को चिन्ता, अनि घरमा आज के खाने ठेगाना छैन । त्यसमाथि श्रीमती मुटुको रोगी, उपचार कसरी गर्ने चिन्ता । बिरामी श्रीमतीको त्यस्तो चाल् हुँदा कहिले त खान नै नखाइ कन सुतिदिने । उसकै भाषामा चित्कार बोल्दा यस्तो थियो, " के गर्नु हजुर, पकाउने चामल नै नभएपछी के खानु र के पकाउनु ।" अनि थप्दै थिइ,"रात्भरी यही आशु पिउदै सुत्ने प्रयास गरेको, निन्द्रा पनि लाग्दैन ।" उता भने श्रीमान दिनरात खटेकै छन् । तर त्यसको महत्व र फल कहाँ गयो त ???

उता उदघोसककले अनाउन्स गर्दै थियो, यो पीछडिएको तमाङ जातको अर्को दर्दनाक कथा हो भनेर । श्रीमान कम्पनिको लागि बफादार गार्ड हो तर कम्पनी बन्द हुने पिरले उसलाई सताइरहेकै छ । रिक्सा चलाउदा पनि सुख छैन भने कसले हेर्ने उसको त्यो दर्दनाक जीवन । यस कुरा बाट के स्पस्ट हुन्छ भने, हामी गरिबिमा हुर्कन अझै वाध्य छौ । यही दु:खलाई छिचोल्दा चिचोल्दै हाम्रो एक जीवन त्यसै बितिजान्छ । अनि मोजमस्ती कहिले गर्ने ? ठेकेदार र साहु भनाउदाहरुको पन्जाबाट कहिले मुक्त हुने हामी ?

Prem Kumar Shyangtan Lama(Kavre) on June 8, 2009 at 10:48pm
three cause of tamang people backward. poor, uneducated, cultural should be change first of all.

Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on June 10, 2009 at 6:58am
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Thank you Prem Syangtan and Ngima pakhrin ji, for you valuables words....

Absolutely you both are right on your good and true views. These are the facts that we are facing with these days too. We are not still getting that supreme power of the posts of administtrative fields..........

I'm totally agre with the views of Prem ji that three cause of tamang people backward. poor, uneducated, cultural should be change first of all. Yes absolutely prem ji, we able to imrpove on these concerned needs, no tamang will be backwards no more......

I'm also agree with the views of Ngima ji. You are right in this case that we are not ourselves the backward but people made us backwards. Otherwise we are capable just like others and our all works are suffiecient to compete with any other casts of the world............

Thank you very much for your very wonderful suggestions to aware of our freedom and opertunities to grab. This would help us to touch some important peak than that of before.........

Reply by BM थिङ on June 11, 2009 at 3:42pm

Well, Thanks for your nice topic Mr. Manik Jee. This is what we have to think always and get it done from everybody and get success every step in our life. We need to discuss and give idea to other HOW we can be forwarded same like everyone? Our habit is blame to other people who are success in their life. The football player stand on play ground without RUN and hopping for goal he will never do goal…….for make goal he has to run around the ground and hit ball to goal post then only his team will be the winner……..same things we have to our life……!! We are tamangs and came from tamangs society. We learned whatever we got from our society. When we came to mix others society we have to learn more…….we has to learn more……..they already learned more…& more….here is big difference….!! That’s why we tamangs are backward.

For example: our all tamangs bro and sis are living in village if they will come to ktm, they will walk without shoes, and they don’t know HOW to speak with people. This is our weak point. I am not telling that I came from city I am also from village (Rasuwa). We have to care them and we have to give suggestion to them this thingsss……But we can do everything which those forward people are doing; we need communication each other we need discuss everything’s about our cultures our society our tamangs bro sis……we have to stop to them who are doing bad thingssss like : Bimala Lama, she did bad…..!! She arrested by police. This is very bad news for all tamangs…..!! I am not talking about only bad we have alots…. Good people too but they are their own place….. We need to meet them and need learn from them HOW to be forward?? We have many things which we can’t explain here but we need too……..!! This is my own view of comments if any mistake I am so sorry…..!!

Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on June 11, 2009 at 5:37pm
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Thank you very much Birman Thing ji,
You have pointed out very important things baout the petiable conditions of tamangs. This is the fact about our tamang community and thats why become the topic of disscussions for all we tamang community. We always need to concern with our rights and have to ready to fight for the rights as well.......

Its true bitter standing infront of us that we are not really the backward but made us backwards. And thats the reason of our backward, and our attempt to moving forward just like others are also challanging task to make our steps smoother on the way of developments..............

The example that you put to clearify your views are absolutely met its target and gives the clear vision of our mission. Our all trials are challanging and one should have the strong desires to complete these job in greater extent of success. Only the people can be on the posts of successors if they are consious with their targets or goals..............

You also raised another important matter as a big problem of our community. This is the outcome of civilizations and modernizations, that marked us uncomfortable infront of other civilized Local inhabitants "sahariyaa baasindaa". They have lots of oppertunities on their hands but in our hands only the prize of poverty, unliterate,,,,,,,,,,,,,, These things make us and pull us always on the suffered life..........

Thank you very much once again to my dear BIRMAN THING ji for your true valuable comments. Its not the matter of excusing and forgiving but for sharing the important things to mobilise this society forwards....... You have said no words of bitter, but would get high level of appreciations........

Reply by Binoy Yonzon on June 12, 2009 at 9:23pm

I will have to admit that we Tamangs are "picchadiyeko jaat" till now. Aabo kura aaucha kina haami picchadiyeko jaat hau bhanera.

Since Pritvi Narayan Shah and his "chatoor" cohorts started to take over the middle hills which had been traditionally Tamang rajya, we have been suppressed time and again. In my opinion Shahs, and Ranas in the middle, made a collective conscious decision to not let Tamangs move up in the socio-economic ladder. They knew that Kathmandu valley is surrounded by hills full of Tamangs. So they needed us to be subservient to them, for their safety and convenience.

Tamang jaati-lai maasiney jaati pani bhaniyeko thiyo. Meaning, Prithvi Narayan and his descendents had decreed that Tamang caste itself should be made instinct. That is why the punishment for mere follies were much more severe for Tamangs particularly, until as recently as Mahendra's time.

Tamangs were not initially allowed to join British Gurkhas Regiment. Lot of Tamangs changed their surname to Gurungs just so that they can go to "paltan". Only much later, due to the pressure from the British, who needed more soldiers to fight the First and Second World Wars, were Tamangs allowed to join British Army. The rulers in Narayanhiti and Singha Durbar were too afraid to let the people surrounding their valley to turn into a martial race. Plus, they needed ready access and constant supply of servants. That's why "Pipa Goshwara" in Nepal Army is full of Tamangs. Pipa is the lowest rank in the army and are used just to do menial work.

Tamangs have also been lumped with Tibetans and are often referred to as "bhoteys". It is a conscious effort to alienate Tamangs as outsiders and not let us be part of the nation's mainstream.

It is NOT true that we are any less than other castes if given the same opportunity and equality. Just take a look at Darjeeling/Sikkim and other hill stations of India. Unburdened of Nepali government's suppression, Tamangs have reached the highest echelon of society there. Say what you must of Subash Ghishing, love him or hate him, but he is a Tamang who almost singlehandedly changed the course of Darjeeling and people of Nepali origin in India.

I fundamentally don't agree with Maoists, but one good thing they did was to remove Shah dynasty from our heads. Shahs, Ranas and their chamchas have done nothing good for Tamangs. They are the reason why we are comparatively behind. Good riddance to them, I would say.

Astu.

Reply by BM थिङ on June 14, 2009 at 8:55am
Manik Ji, Thanks for your nice reply and positive coments. Hopping that we will be keep in touch and discussing all mater relative with tamangssssssss so we can learn each other we can share each otherssss thank you so much once again.......

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on June 14, 2009 at 9:30am
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Thank you BIRMAN ji,
for your all interest on my words..
Ya, sure....... The more we discuss and more we learn and get chance to share many things........ Thank you for your great participation for the discussion....................

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on June 14, 2009 at 10:17am
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Thank you Binoy ji,
Its my pleasures to have you in discussion to let myself to know more historic facts about this community. As we have evidences that the shah dynasty was proved to be the destroyer of our traditions. The Autonomous region or state of Tamang were snatched away from them, in front of their eyes, in the name of unification of Nepal. Tamang were then compelled to stay under the guidance of other and they had no right to express them freely..........

On my research and study also shows that we were used to suppress time to time, still the root of suppressing and depressing to us are not completely given off. There were obligations we tamang people to change surname Tamang to Gurung to submit them in British army. The fact always remains the same even anyone tries to suppress............

But it is new information for me about the punishments given to the tamang by shah dynasty up to the Mahendra's descendants. The conspiracy and attempt to extinct tamang since shah dynasty is another reason why we are backward. We were brave from the ancient but everyone was trying to suppress our braveness. The evil eyes always used to fall on our every progress...........

This is another fact of bitterness that even Tamang were capable but let them to work in lowest posts. The severe punishments didn't let them to get any chances of doing great and legendary works. That is deprived from all their rights. They had always fear in their minds that if Tamang come to the mainstream of nation's then they could never be the part to utilize all the facilities. That's why their concern always used to be somewhere greedy and cruality to this community..............

We have many persons to this community who proved themselves the worthy and let us become more worthy in front of others to show. Yes, absolutely the shah dynasty is no more longer to give pain. This is good but still we are not completely assured with full of rights...........

You have great words of inspirations for all we Tamang to move forwards. We should learn from history to make our steps more easier then only our dream come true...

Thanks indeed for your all information from ancient time to now. If i need any help from you, then undoubtedly ask you for more.......... thank you.............

Reply by dAlThokar on June 15, 2009 at 5:29pm
As far as I know that why we are backward is lack of 5 things.
1) Much loyal: what we do and believe is more than needed which is need to be done exactly how much required. I insist in it coz we tamangs are seen in every sector that has no level.
2) co-op: we tamangs are not seen as co-op as others. One who gets higher rank in wherever, whatever he never turns back his head where he has come from and he starts forgeting his past days, his friends, the place where he born etc.
3) Still lack of education: Now we can see each and every tamang students started going to educational institute but lets go back 10 years, Having keen interested to get an education but circumstances were against them.
4) Lack of inspiration: There is a saying " To aim is not enough, you have to hit the target":If some one does somthing that is not enough we need more than he did.
5) Last one is Proudy: we still have a proud if something is done by........... he does keep saying very small thing unnecessarily big was done wise man never says I did this and that.

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on June 15, 2009 at 8:03pm
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Thank you Dal ji,
for your very good points to clarify this topic.........
Its my great pleasures to be a part of this discussion and let myself to know many things just like you.... The facts that you just pointed out with 5 points are most important to be concerned. I also suppose you that until and unless we complete these bitter facts we can't make our steps easier......
You just have put very clear visions to forward this community onwards. We should learn drawbacks from the history to further our steps smoother for long run.......

All tamang should realise the points you raised on first and second points. These two points keep very important meaning in our community. Much loyalty doesn't bring us to the proper places of any level and second point also plays very important role. This is what we all are facing with and still growing up to our minds......

Ok, third point is rather important to be considered much. Definitely, we still are passing the dark light by depriving from sparking of education. The all we do and all we walk can only be possible with the help of this brightest abstract education.

The forth and fifth also keep important meaning to let us backward definitely. Instead of inspiring who are doing good works, but just try to back bite and pull the legs from stepping towards progress. Proudy is another vice of human nature which only lead them towards destructions……

Thank you very much all your great and clear words….. I’m really feel proud and I believe that this proudy wouldn’t let me down anymore but supports to move forwards…

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तमाङहरु अझै पूर्ण रुपमा समाजको अगुवा बन्न नसकेको ज्वलन्त उदाहरणहरु बेलाबेलामा बिभिन्न घटनाक्रम र परिस्थितीले देखाउछ । नेपालमा संगित क्षेत्रमा चर्चा बटुल्न सफल गायक यम बरालबाट एक निर्दोश तमाङ चेली ठगिएको घटनाले के पुस्टि गर्छ भने, हामी अझै पनि सम्पूर्ण रुपमा सकृय र आँफैमा निर्भर छैनौ भन्ने बोध गराउछ । यी त चर्चित ब्यक्तिबाट गरिएको अन्याय भएकोले सबैले थाहा पायौ तर यस्ता घटनाहरु कत्ती घटिरहेका छन् त भन्ने कुराको कुनै लेखाजोखा छैन ।
अनि तमाङ समाजमा अर्को समस्याको रुपमा रहेको छ चेलीबेटी बेच्बिखन । जबसम्म हाम्रा ती निर्दोश र अबला चेलीहरु बेचिनबाट पूर्ण रुपमा रोकिन्न, समाजको स्वच्छ निर्माण गर्छु भन्नु हास्यस्पद कुरा मात्रा हुन्छ ।
त्यसैले मेरो सबै साथीहरुलाई आग्रह, हामी सकृय भएर लागौ । समस्या समाधान गर्न धेरै गाह्रो छैन तर अब भने एक हुनु अत्ती जरुरी छ । आजको २१ औ शताब्दिको हामी महान तमाङहरु मिलेर यो समाजलाई अझ मजबुत बनाउन हातमा हात मिलाउ !!!

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Swayambar S. Lama Glan (S.lama)Permalink Reply by Swayambar S. Lama Glan (S.lama) on June 26, 2009 at 4:56pm
Lack of education . That's all

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on June 26, 2009 at 5:13pm
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Definitely swayambar ji,
lack of education has become the mejor fact of all causes and problems...

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on July 5, 2009 at 2:17pm
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अहिलेको समय बास्तबमै हाम्रो लागि महत्वपूर्ण छ । हाम्रो प्रगतिको लागि र उन्नतिका लागि बिभिन्न आवाजहरु पनि उठिरहेका छन् । तर अझै पनि सम्पूर्ण रुपमा समस्या समाधानको लागि पर्याप्त छैन । हो हामी धेरै पछी धकेलिएका छौ तैपनी कोशीस गरिरहेका छौ कि हामी पनि त्यो प्रगतिका टुप्पाहरुमा एकदिन अबस्य पुग्छौ भनेर । अझै पनि हाम्रा ती प्रगतिका लागि लम्काइएका खुट्टाहरु काट्ने दुस्प्रायासको सड्यन्त्रहरु रच्दैछन । हेरौ कहिले साच्चिकै ती सुनौलो बिहानिमा हामी पनि रमाउन पाउने छौ भनेर !!

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on July 5, 2009 at 2:38pm
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काठमाडौं, ३० जेठ
गायक यम बरालले आफ्नै घरमा काम गर्न राखेकी मजदुर महिला मनकुमारी तामाङलाई पारिश्रमिक लिन बोलाएर फेरि झुक्याएका छन् । पारिश्रमिक लिन धापासीस्थित महानगरीय प्रहरी प्रभाग किरिनटार पुगेकी मनकुमारी गायक बराल उपस्थित नभएपछि रित्तो हात फर्किएकी छिन् ।

बरालले घरमा काम गर्न राखेकी महिलालाई पारिश्रमिक नदिई उल्टै चोरीको आरोपमा थुनाएको समाचार नयाँ पत्रिकाले प्रकाशित गरेपछि प्रधानमन्त्री माधवकुमार नेपालले बरालमाथि कारबाही गर्न र पीडितलाई क्षतिपूर्तिको व्यवस्था गर्न गृहसचिवलाई निर्देशन दिएका थिए । प्रधानमन्त्रीले कारबाहीको निर्देशनपछि बरालले शनिबार प्रहरी प्रभाग पुगी पीडितसँग छलफल गराइदिन प्रहरी निरीक्षक विनोद निरौलालाई अनुरोध गरेका थिए । निरौलाले पीडित मनकुमारी तामाङ र बराललाई आइतबार पाँच बजे प्रहरी कार्यालय बोलाएका थिए । तर, प्रहरी कार्यालयमा बराल उपस्थित भएनन् ।

'भ्यान लिएर आएका प्रहरीले चौकीमा लगे र भोलि पाँच बजे आउनुहोस् भन्दै फर्काइदिए,' मनकुमारीले भनिन्, 'प्रहरीले गायक बरालमाथि थप मुद्दा नगर्न र मिल्न आग्रह गरेका छन् ।' गायक बरालले जाममा फसेर आफू उपस्थित हुन नसकेको जानकारी गराएको प्रहरी निरीक्षकलाई उद्धृत गर्दै मनकुमारीले बताइन् । यस्तै बालबालिकाको क्षेत्रमा कार्यरत सिविस संस्थाले बरालविरुद्ध बालश्रम शोषण, झुटा मुद्दा लगाई थुनाएको र पारिश्रमिक नदिएको अभियोगमा प्रहरी प्रभाग किरिनटारमा मुद्दा दर्ता गराएको छ ।

यसैबीच, गायक बरालले आइतबार राजधानीमा पत्रकार सम्मेलन गरी आफ्नो प्रगति देख्न नचाहनेले भ्रामक समाचार फैलाएको दाबी गरेका छन् । आफूमाथि अन्याय भएको भन्दै उनले समाचारको आधार पुष्टि गर्न चुनौतीसमेत दिएका छन् । तर, नयाँ पत्रिकाले पहिलोपटक समाचार प्रकाशित गर्दा नै पीडित महिलाको बयान, महाराजगन्जका डिएसपी शरद खत्रीको जानकारी, स्वयं बराल र उनकी सासू इन्दिरा राणाको प्रतिक्रियासमेत छापेको थयो ।

पत्रकार सम्मेलनमा बरालसँगै उपस्थित सासू इन्दिरा राणाले मनकुमारीकी छोरीलाई आफ्नै छोरीको दर्जामा माया गरेको दाबी गर्दै आफूहरूले बालश्रमिक नबनाएको बताइन् । राणा खानदानकी भए पनि आफू बालश्रमविरुद्ध रहेको उनको भनाइ थियो ।

समाचार स्रोत : नयाँ पत्रिका दैनिक

Reply by bibek tamang on July 12, 2009 at 9:24pm
because we have thinking like yours

Reply by SanZoo Lama " Theeng" on July 13, 2009 at 1:05pm
Golden Heart Manik,

I just like to say that, We tamang are not backword in every sectors...

if u are comparing us "we tamang" to the other cast it's not good enough i think.

We Tamang are very good in ever sector, we do have our own unique traditions and customs which others cast don't have . And regarding about the backward.........manik .................." Tamang ko choro ho manik Paachi kaayala Parako chyanna ".............................Do or Die .................

thansk manilk

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Prabhat TamangPermalink Reply by Prabhat Tamang on July 13, 2009 at 1:51pm
The main reason to be backward is lack of awareness. People are not aware of education, good health and the proper utilization of time. They think that there is no problem in joining hand to mouth then why should we be do progress for us. Thinking this is one of the most reason to be backward. So people don't be selfish to do good things. Be selfish to get success but when you achieve your goal then spread your ideas and views without having selfishness in your mind n heart.
The educated person should lunch different educational programs so that each and every members of the tamang family would be encouraged to get the proper education. By donation health program should be launched so that the health condition can be progressed. People should be given the education abut civilization and works like handicraft and computer training should be provided to upgrade tamang commuinty........

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Gautam Raj MoktanPermalink Reply by Gautam Raj Moktan on July 13, 2009 at 1:59pm
Yes....I agree with Prabhat....One line answer to Manik ji's question:

'..............................Because of Lack of Awareness.'

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on July 13, 2009 at 4:58pm
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Thank you so much dear BIbek ji,,
I'm greatly impressed with your answer. The way of my perceptions are different than that of yours. I had just raised this topic so that i could change my mind just like the way how you are thinking. The topic had not raised to itself but of with the witness of all my eyes.....
May my eyes are not geeting properly like yours with the problems but what i have seen is just the fact. Nothing more than the fact...
Thanks for your great words..... We want brave pople like you and no more tamang will be backwards..

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on July 13, 2009 at 5:18pm
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Thank you so much Kalpana ji,
For your valuable words and participation on the discussion.. Definitely, we are not actually backwards but left backward by government and other people of supreme posts.... Our steps are forwarding more and more to get the summit of success but still not let us to climb freely. And the constant conspiracy and dirty games are playing with us.......

The matter "shy to call own self a Tamang" which you just have raised also may be the factor for letting us more backward. This concept has to be changed in greater extent otherwise we have to face more and more difficulties and results more backwards what i just expressed before.....

Yes, its hard to find the people who motivates for the uplift of this community. We are really rich to our culture and customs and heart wooing hospitality but still not reaching to the post of success.
Awareness and motivations are another important factors to play greater role.....

We can't see whether we are best or worst without any means of comparisons. How would you say that we are really great? Its because when you compare our cultures with others then you are clear with the matter that our customs or systems or hospitality are best than others. That's why comparison is must to declare the things whether it is best or not......

Anyways, thanks for your all words....May these all will help to let us to move us on the smooth way of success...

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on July 13, 2009 at 5:30pm
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Thank you so much my dear sanzoo,
Just open your eyes to see the pitiable conditions of tamang on remote areas or somewhere else. We have great hands to achieve this success today. But still lots of tamang people are under the darkness of educations and under the line of poverty. Even they want to have better life just like others, but all their dreams just complete in dreams.....

We have really brave heart just as you said but there is no respect for our braveness. We are not allowed to walk freely and "walk freely" doesn't mean to say that you should stay always within there inside your room. I know you have really great and brave heart of tamang, but have you seen any tamang on the post of prime ministers...or higher posts of the goverments? Not yet, its all because we are not qualified as they are. Why is it so then?

Its all because we are not totally awared of our rights. Until and unless we thrived for success to kiss the summit, no advancement developments are possible....

I salute to the heart of tamang but always found vein coz we are not supposed to be there at higher rank...

Anyways, thanks for your suggestions.....

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on July 13, 2009 at 5:38pm
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Thank you so much Prabhat ji for your really really wonderful words....
Definitely the issues that you have just raised is so important to be discussed. "The main reason to be backward is lack of awareness. People are not aware of education, good health and the proper utilization of time." The fact is always running with our community today. The time has transfigured us lots but not completely. We are proceeding there for the completeness and still there are get in the way of our successes...

The point that you raised is also to be considered "selfish is only way of development." May this reason also lagged us because we have no heart of selfishness. We don't know how to play the game of dirt or dirty game...

Lets try to be optimistic ourselve and our pure souls once will definitely get success like others....
Thank you so much indeed for your real words to represent tamang hearts.....

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on July 13, 2009 at 5:40pm
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Definitely,
lack of awareness is what we are lagged behind...

Reply by SanZoo Lama " Theeng" on July 13, 2009 at 5:51pm
THAT'S RIGHT MANIK ONLY THE COZ OF NEPALI POLITICIAN IN THOSE PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THEY REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT US. IN THOSE TIME IF OUR GOVERNMENT WERE VERY POSITIVE TO US THEN WE NEVER BEEN SEEN THESE DAYS, NOW TO DO SOMETHING WE HAVE TO AWARE THEM IN EVERY ASPECT OF THE LIFE, BUT WE TAMANG ARE NEVER BEEN SO BACKWARD OURSELF WE WERE FORCE TO STAY STILL.

I DO KNOW A LOTS ABOUT TAMANG COZ M ALSO TAMANG........

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on July 13, 2009 at 6:06pm
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Thank you sanzoo for your such wonderful response with regards...
I know how really you have great heart for the tamang people...
I really appreciate all your feelings and emotions and this will definitely lead us more forward...
Thank you so much...

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Robin LamaPermalink Reply by Robin Lama on July 15, 2009 at 7:42am
Dear All,
Sorry for late comment.

Manik Ji,
The title is not suitable in this age. However we could be little bit at back in some sectors but not in all. So, TAMANGS CHORBA MULA JYO JYO. And, need to be noted that we have still alots of things to be done to lead the society by Tamangs. And, Socio-econonic development is also a key factor. Education leads the people to opportunity and opportunity leads the people to achievement. This concept is still a like blinking light among some Tamangs. So, proper education and strong economic foundation may drive all tamangs towards the every winning post.

**Robin

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on July 15, 2009 at 7:56am
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Kalpana ji,,,
millions and millions of thanks for your such intellectual sharings.....
These are the real things what i have expected for a long time. No complaints and compliments at all with your every great words.....

The facts that you have raised all ar just enough to verify your answers. We just had defeated once the race competetion but still hope to win again, just was you said.... No need to worry about our lost for our first attemt and no meaning of comparision so that we just put ourselves in pain of defeating. For your kind suggestions, yes i'm optimistic that one day we also be able to win this game of success.... Ok, i came to agree with your talks that lets not compare ourselves to feel guilty....

This tamang chautari has aimed to meet some of the problems concerned tamang community. "Helping and establishing the health camp to the people who are really backward in economic and other sectors. conducting different programs to uplift the conditions of back lagged tamang people. Reducing the conventional thoughts prevailing or relevant to Tamang community and establish the good mannered one." These are just what there are in the proposal of tamang chautari..

If we are success in implementing these few deeds, this community definitely will get higher post of successors..Thank you so much for your all intellectual sharings...

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on July 15, 2009 at 8:09am
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Thank you so much Dear Robin ji,
I agree with your all words of heart. Definitely, i also have seen that there need to be change in words "all sectors" to "few sectors"...

The time has transfigured us a lots. Tamang chhorbaa mulaa bharkhar, tara arku jamman hyaarsi jinbaa mulaa hyaangdaa khlaasi. Osse laasi hyaang yen hyaardobaa mulaa mokkon taan syaabbaari....

The issue that you just have raised should be on more focusing of our eyes to get target. On your says" Socio-econonic development is also a key factor. Education leads the people to opportunity and opportunity leads the people to achievement. This concept is still a like blinking light among some Tamangs. So, proper education and strong economic foundation may drive all tamangs towards the every winning post." if we are able to do show our all interest then i will never have to say "we tamang are not barkward in all sectors".

We are just near to get to the summit of success with our all great souls and great hospitalities just as our kalpana said. No lets hope all these will drive this community on winning posts....

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on July 16, 2009 at 11:40am
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आज हामी तमाङहरु पनि दौडिदै छौ, केही गर्ने आशहरु बोकेर । कैयौ देखी नजितेको खेल जित्न आज अर्को खेलमा पनि भाग लियिदै छ । अब हेर्न बाँकी छ, हाम्रा पाइलाहरुले साच्चै कत्ती छिटो दुरी पार गर्न सक्छौ ? हाम्रा आँखाहरुले पनि सफलताका ती दिनहरु साच्चिकै हेर्न तड्पिरहेका छन् । चेतनाको मुहानहरु बिस्तारइ फुटाइदै छन्, खुशीको कुरा हामी आज धेरै अगाडि पुगिसकेका रहेछौ ।

जुनासुकै क्षेत्रमा हामिले पनि खाका कोर्न मेहेनत गरिरहेका छौ । त्यही मेहेनतको फल पाउन आज हामी कुरिरहेछौ । धन्य मेरा यी साथीहरुको आटमा निकै सुधार देख्दै छु । अनी मनले भन्न थालिसकेको छ, केही बेरमै हामीले सफलता कब्जामा लिने छौ भनेर !!!

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on October 10, 2009 at 7:44pm
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We have still lots of problems to face...
We have great people like our Bhawana Tamang who is the best but even not getting any chances of prove ourselves the best...
We have definitely capacity, effort and all quality but still deprived from all....
We have definitely kind hearts for all, but still not getting respect in return......
So, lets hope for new day with new challangings... One day, we will definitely be there on the topest posts of anything....

Reply by Ashok Parthiv Tamang(waiba) on October 10, 2009 at 9:15pm
The foremost and essential things in any development is to have knowledge so in my perception we Tamangs are being lack in education so we need to emphasize to all our community to take part in academic field, if one is equipped with educational background ,he or she may have lots of opportunity to compete with.

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on October 10, 2009 at 9:26pm
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Thank you Ashok ji,
for your logic sharings.....

Exactly Ashok ji, one can come up if he/she is equipped with educational background..... A new hope is only with oppertunity. We still are no more sufficient to compete with, its all because we have less idea with stuffs to movilise........

Thank you indeed for your great words.....

Reply by gAnEsH lAmA { dOnG} on October 10, 2009 at 9:53pm
Dear manik bro, first of all i would like to thank for superb topic. actully we were at backward from other cast and management in the past. it was a problem of management,correcpted people and some conservative cast. because our ansestors were too simple and honest and they never knew how to cheated with another people.they just follow whatever said to follow. without expecting and complaning anything. thats why the management thought that we had satisfied with everything and they had done whatever they liked. Due of these things; untill few years back we people hadn't get any chances and opportunity from the management and high level. but time has changed......we can see every where. tamang peoples are grabbing and deserving a lot opportunity as much as. but not compleatly......................yeah we stayed at back coz of management and someother people.........now we have to show our skill and power in front of that lucky bastard......

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on October 13, 2009 at 10:35am
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Thank you so much Ganesh bro, for your wonderful and logic sharings.....

We were so far so good but the problem of management was there. We used to present ourselves as the best in front of all but no special respect was there for that bravery....Tamangs were not initially allowed to join British Gurkhas Regiment. They were compelled to change their cast to join and it is only their fault that they were Tamangs....

We are not forwarding more than that we used to be. We may find many skilled and well reputed persons of our own casts...... No doubt at all that our capabilities deserve for these....

I agree with all your sharings ganesh bro... So, once again thank you so much for your wonderful logic....

Reply by NaMsEnG gHiSiNg on October 13, 2009 at 4:13pm
pachi parnu ra pachi parnu it is two side.Yedi kasailai taha cha uslai pachi pareko ho bhanne bhane kina pachi lagi rakhe ko ta ra without fall there wont be new rise.Pachi parne parne its natural law but it depend on u which one u like to choose.But....................the most important thing tamang have to change is the trend of "Jhad, raksi,fazul ko kharcha" and the ego of "i". " Ma ra Mero" bhanne bhawana tyagnu jaruri cha hami ra hamro bhanera sabai aghi badhyo bhane sure no doubt tamang haru kehi ma kam chaina.

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Dhawa Sang Dong (धावा साङ दोङ)Permalink Reply by Dhawa Sang Dong (धावा साङ दोङ) on October 14, 2009 at 9:24am
वास्तवमा हामीलाई पछि पारिएको भन्दा पनि हाम्रो चेतना र शिक्षा तिरको गति slow छ। we neither try to lead time nor move with time .

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on October 14, 2009 at 9:02pm
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नेम्साङ ज्योजो र धावा सम्धीप्रती बिशेष आभार आफ्नो महत्वपूर्ण तर्कको लागि ।

अबस्य पनि पछि पर्नु र पछि पार्नु दुई छुट्टाछुट्टै पाटाहरु हुन् । त्यसैले अब हामी चुप लागेर बस्ने जमाना छैन, बरु सकेसम्म सँगसँगै दौडने प्रयास गर्नुपर्छ । अबस्य पनि जाड रक्सी जस्ता कुलतबाट अझ पनि तामाङहरु अछुतो रहन सकेको छैन, यसैको कारण पनि हुन सक्ला किन आज हामी र हाम्रो समाज सकेसम्मको प्रगतिमा पाइला लम्काउन नसकेको भनेर ।

धावा सम्धिको कुरामा केही थप्न चाहन्छु । हामीलाई कस्ले पछि पार्यो त भन्ने सवालमा, अबस्य पनि समयले अनि प्रतिकुल समयसँगै जन्मिएको परिस्थितीले । हामी पहिले देखी नै शिक्षामा बन्चित थियौ यही शिक्षामा बन्चित हुनुले आज हामी चेतानाको स्तरमा गुणस्तर ल्याउन सक्षम छैनौ । यी र यस्तै धेरै कारनहरु छन् हामी पछि पर्नुमा तर हाम्रो प्रगतिको बाटोतिर भने सधैं अग्रसर रहने प्रती बद्धता सधैं नै रहीरहेको छ ।

Reply by JAGAT WAIBA on November 13, 2009 at 1:15pm
खै.....मेरो बिचारमा ....मानिक जी...हामी तमांग
पछि पर्नुको कारण चाई....शिछ्या
कारनले नै जस्तो लाग्छ ...किन की..हाम्रो...तामांग समाजमाँ अझै पनी चेतना को कमी छ ,तै पनि जसो तसो...हाम्रो तमांगहरु पनी अहिले ..धेरै फड्को मारी सकेको छ...येसरिनै...हातमा हात मिलौदै हाते मालो गर्दै जान्ने हो भने...सिखरमाँ ..पुग्न कुन ठुलो कुरा होर....अब धेरै...ब्याख्या गर्नु भन्दा पानी संछिप्तामा भनु पर्दा हामी तामांग पछि पर्नु को मूल कारण चाई शिच्या अनि चेतानको कमीले नै हो..........................

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 17, 2009 at 4:03pm
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जगत ब्रोलाई आफ्नो अमुल्य प्रतिकृयाको लागि बिशेष धन्यवाद । अबस्य पनि हामी तामाङ हरु सत प्रतिसत साक्षर बनिसकेको अवस्था छैन । यसको असार बापत हामी अझै पछी परिरहेको स्थिती छ । यदी हाम्रो आँखा नै खुलेको छैन भने अगाडिको यात्रा कस्तो रहेछ भनेर बुझ्न गाह्रो हुन्छ । शिक्षा नै त्यो चिज हो जस्ले हाम्रो आँखा खोल्ने काम गर्छ ।

यसका साथ्साथै चेतना पनि त्यत्तिकै जरुरी छ । हामी शिक्षित भएर मात्रा पुग्दैन त्यसको सहि सदुपयोगको लागि उचित जग्गा पनि चाहिन्छ । जबसम्म हामीमा चेतनाको अभाव खड्किरहन्छ, तबसम्म बिकास गर्छौ भन्नु सपनामा महल बनाउनु जस्तै हो,,,जसको कुनै अर्थ रहन्न ।

तपाईंको बीचारको लागि आभारी छु .....

Reply by महिन्दो वाईबा on November 17, 2009 at 9:51pm
हामी तमङ्हरुलाइ पहिला त राज्य ले नै पेलेको हो। तर अहीले त्यो अवस्थ रहेन । हामी ले पनि अब केही गरे हुने बेला आएको छ। त्यसैले अब चै अरु ले हामीलाई दबायो भनेर बस्नु उपयुक्त हुदइन । जोश ,जागर, अनी होस् पुराएर काम गरयो भने अहीले पनि अघि बध्ने समय बाँकी छ । तर हामीले आफ्नो लागि बोल्नु चाँही पर्छ

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Bishal Bomjon TamangPermalink Reply by Bishal Bomjon Tamang on November 18, 2009 at 2:24am
Being unable to understanding the strategic components in our own resources,and i think it is a very important for us to have an educate knowledge or to understand what is social strategic components. Inany organisation or society it has an analytical plan. Lack of necessitate awareness among ourself regarding enviromentally change taking place globally or even domestically to meet the competition and also failure to grow and develope ourself in order to provide a service for own socitey as well as failure to maintain inter social harmony in an appropriate manner.

thanks, will be cont...........

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me tmg kulPermalink Reply by me tmg kul on November 18, 2009 at 6:00am
very glad to heard from all of mitras. lets me tmg wants to share mah opinios too. in past tmg used to b intelligent, brave warier, peace lover, educated, simple, innocent, helpful, kind hearted so some how tmg got dominated by another... even dey;re restricted to get entry in yambbo(ktm valley) wid tmg(if dey mentioned tmg). so tmg ppl started to hide tmg to get some freedom which came very bad result now coz dey start to hate ownself to adding tmg wid their's name so we can see even in chautari dat tmg ppl without tmg like bomjan lama dong moktan yonjan ......at the beginning we should feel proud wid tmg(name of tmg). we need to b unite. offcorse we'r backward bocoz of illiteracy. but its all coz off the policy which we'd face, but now time is changed n now is start to face the problems which in way to go forwards. fyafulla thujuchhe.

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 18, 2009 at 8:25am
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आफ्नो महत्वपूर्ण बिचारको लागि Mahindo Waiba जि प्रती बिशेष आभार । अबस्य पनि अहिले पहिलेको जस्तो स्थिती छैन । हामी जोश र जाँगर भएकाहरु अब हात बाधेर बस्ने अवस्था पनि छैन । जे गर्नुपर्ने हो आँफैले गर्नुपर्छ, असक्षम हामी पक्कै छैनौ ।

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 18, 2009 at 9:02am
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Thank you so much Bishal ji for complements.....
I would definitely like to show my favor on your views. Certainly, we need to understand the strategic components in our own sources... We should take the charges to ensure ourselves come up with the best coz we have that effort to our hearts..

And another important thing that you raised is to introduce with the modern world. This should should be kept on the most prioritized acts. And due to this, we may succeed to proceed towards the destiny what we were waiting for or searching for.......

Thanks indeed for your great views...

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 18, 2009 at 9:21am
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me tamang ji, I really appreciate all the words that of your "PURE HEART OF TAMANG".. Yes, the conditions used to be something similar on the beginning but the time let us transfigured and we are now be able to come up with today's condition. Even they were so intelligent with all aspects but had no values of any sorts..

To join Gorkha regime or british regime the used to change their cast "tamang" to something else like "gurung", "rai" etc..... We used to be brave but that seemed to be useless just like the condition of "A CASED PARROT" ...And the gradually changed their minds, the level of thinking and acts of doing and learnt to stand by their own self...

Today no similar conditions are there, as same before... A positive perceptions and conceptions are the need of all.... We proudly need to refer "tamang" as our cast which really would make you feel belong to great and brave heart of tamang....

Thank you so much me tmg for your great concern...

Reply by Bishal Bomjon Tamang on November 20, 2009 at 5:24am
It is because of inability to recognise ourselves, in one another, to understand that we are brother's keeper and which is seeing as an unempathy defiance of 250 years of our own nation (Nepal) centralised constitution.Moreover,our brothers and sisters are running away from forgotten corduroy of schools and university of NEpal.Before it takes a terrible storms we have walls,barriers to over come and to do this we need unity. A unity to change a attitude of discrimination and burdening of our own mind and solve a problem who dont look like us neither respect our ethic culture in our own nation. Every day our politics exploits just for a kind of division accross country and within ourselves.And, lack of nations annuity sustaintion from the beginning of the judgment clouded by the unforgiven Prithebinarayan shaha. This can be a reasons WHY Tamang are forgotten by their destiny or we are helpless in the face of destiny.

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 21, 2009 at 8:41pm
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Thank you Bishal ji, for your great logic comments.....
What all we need to understand is the fact and there should not any space for the conspiracy against us... To run away from the evil acts of human supremacy, we should be able to face with this coz we are of the same souls with same minds.....To give a hand to put out the problem means to help each other when we encounter a problem or to get help from those who can help us. It is true that to help each other is great, and nothing is as uplifting as giving a hand......So we should help each other to overcome any problem in our society........

The time has transfigured us to this stage of modernization.....

Reply by Panchaman pakhrin Tamang on December 1, 2009 at 6:38pm
Dear manik jee phyafulla .Thanks lots to you having place very nice words for discusio among Tamang why and how We are being backward why are not being forward? Really most importent Education . Another is genetic disorder.We are Tamang system strongly to change our marriege system like mamacheli and phupucheli because some people coming from very foolish familly if try to convince to them they never understand and making truble to right person and right person also can not convince to foolice man so both of them now being strongly separets each other and neve been friendship or brotherhood.thats why other community distroy our unity ,ulture ,and friendship.

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Panchaman pakhrin TamangPermalink Reply by Panchaman pakhrin Tamang on December 1, 2009 at 6:50pm
You are 100%Right but among other community and Tamang community really big diffirent so pls kindly just have looks our mass mostly backwards but please kindly put your kind glims to verious sectors site and field. hope than you will take more challenging job in your futre carrier and hope will do some progress for Tamang society. Thanks for your energetic power

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on December 1, 2009 at 9:35pm
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Thank you so much Panchaman Tamang ji for your strong logic comments for the topic....
I just have raised this topic for the discussions to get clear vision to meet mission that we targeted for the years.... I'm really thankful to all the friends who really expressed their great words on the favor of this topic... I came to realize that behind this problem is "Lack of education" without which our mission is supposed to be uncompleted...

You raised another important views "the marriage system of mamacheli and phupucheli" which are being observed for a long period of time... It brings sometimes the state of controversies and different views definitely are there to the heads of different ppl....So, it depends on the perceptions of ppl how they handle with the case... Genetic influences definitely plays very important role that how the new new offspring come up with.......

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Indra LopchhanPermalink Reply by Indra Lopchhan on December 2, 2009 at 8:21am
I'd blame our culture of drinking excessive amount of alcohol. Alcohol is so easily available in our community and we believe consuming alcohol is not a big deal. Also, we Tamang live away from the city where there are no prerequisites of development. :(
BTW, we are not behind in all the sectors. We are pretty good in sports like Karate, football, Taekwando and so on. We have very popular singers and artists!
:)

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on December 2, 2009 at 8:36am
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Thank you Panchaman Tamang ji,, for your all progressive words... Yes, you put very important matter of facts and on which we everyone should consider.... The supportive hands and co-ordinations between us will definitely let us have a grand success to meet our mission....

Thank you so much once again for your great words....

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on December 2, 2009 at 8:49am
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I'm really grateful to Indra Lopchan Tamang ji, for the wonderful suggestions. This is the bitter fact alieven to our community, which still are trying to suck this community from progress..... We just spend our most precious time for the merriments with alcohols and its products. As this has become a trend of our culture..... And with its easier access, consuming alcohol is not a big deal.....

Another important fact we have is, living far away from cities where a less no. of opportunity are available..
Yes, i agree with your views that we also have that capability to compete with others but the perception do we have are bit less than what it had to be....

Thank you so much for your great views anyways.....

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Dhawa Sang Dong (धावा साङ दोङ)Permalink Reply by Dhawa Sang Dong (धावा साङ दोङ) on December 2, 2009 at 9:19am
सबै क्षेत्रमा पछि छैनऔ हामी !!!!!!!! जाँड रक्सी खाएर होहल्ला गर्दै लुट्पाट् मचाउने काममा हामी कहाँ पछी छौ र ??? हामी भन्दा अगाडि अरु गैसकेको छ सो हाम्रो speed नै low हो ।

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on December 18, 2009 at 9:17pm
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सहि भन्नु भो धावा सम्धिले,,,हामी तामाङहरु यस किसिमको भौतिक बालिस्ठतामा त कहाँ पछी छौ र ? तर त्यो बलिस्ठतालाई सहि ठाउमा प्रयोग गर्न सकेको भए आज हामी यो अवस्थामा कहाँ हुन्थ्यौ र???

Reply by blon ,om,(kavre) on January 24, 2010 at 12:18am
thankz for the discussions ,

firstafal mostly tamang are uneducated in the our country .also poor and they are living in remote area .we all tamang should be cominicated each of .should be same as all tamang .and whoever educated tamang they should prosses fastward for tamang ,and all the tamang should school knoladge,we must fource it ,for the poor tamang must do provide some economic in the social from rich tamang.whoever in the higher level they shopld help for the lower people.in every village tamang guys could be goodness.

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on January 24, 2010 at 10:50am
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Thank you blon, om ji for the logic views.......
I can put full supports for the comments that you made.... We also have vast difference between high and low class tamang family.... An effort should be made to fill this gap up...

Education on the other hand also plays vital role for the upliftment of status of family, but still tamang from the remote areas are depriving from this. This is another reason that why we are lagging more backwards....

Thanks indeed for the comments.........

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GreenLife RanjeetPermalink Reply by GreenLife Ranjeet on February 13, 2010 at 12:44pm
in my point of view, initially we Tamang's were a kinda late n slow for experiencing the new things, new posts, n new appeareances which lead us to stay a bit backward than these so called forwarded castes. we did experienced in many places for we were not been giving chances primitively by others !! this indicates for we were being pushed back.

The time now is not how others think and take we Tamang as. we are seeing pretty much changes within us lately.

still some societies indirectly is pulling us back..but they donot seems proper stronger compared to today's tamangs. the time is changed, the era for when they used to let us stay back is overwhelmed and ended~~ we are already on our own path to lead ourselves to experience the challenges and to meet the needs of the opportunities in today's present Nepal...

let's try even more harder. lets make aware to all our socieities..let's educate all our small childs with the proper facilities and allowances, let's make each and every tamangs feel the same way we do ~ we have to move forward..we have to gain a lot, we have to create our identity among the whole world !!! Cheers !!!!

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blon ,om,(kavre)Permalink Reply by blon ,om,(kavre) on February 13, 2010 at 4:12pm
susmas views was so nice use full for every one .u r the right person 4 that title.mostly people become posetive thing in your tips.

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on February 22, 2010 at 3:55pm
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Thank you so much for your logic views ranjit ji...........
I can put my all words of supports for the views...

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on February 23, 2010 at 7:48am
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Thank you om ji for you views...........

Reply by surya tamang on February 24, 2010 at 8:42pm
Dear Manik jee,Fyafulla...It was Great Topic i really thanks from buttom of my heart.But first thing we have to know our.Their traditional area is the hilly region between the Budhigandaki river and the Likhu river. At present, they live in large numbers in the districts of Rasuwa, Nuwakot, Dhading, Makawanpur, Sindhuli, Ramechhap, Dolakha, Lalitpur, Sindhupalchok and Kavrepalanchok in the Central Development Region. They are also scattered all over the country, and outside Nepal they are found in large numbers in Darjeling, Sikkim, Asam and Nagaland of India and in Burma and Bhutan. The total population of Tamang in Nepal, according to the census of 2001, is 1,282,304, ie 5.6 per cent of the total population of the country. The Tamang language occupies fifth place in the country in terms of the number of speakers speaking any one language and first place among the Tibeto-Burman languages.

The word Tamang has been found to be used in a document of the thirteenth century. That document found by David Jackson (2976:53) mentions that King Bumlde Mgon built the Shrin fortress in Mustang to suppress the ethnic group Tamang of Lower Glo (Mustang). Although the word Tamang was used as early as the thirteenth century to denote an ethnic group, following the expansion of the Gorkhali kingdom the use of the word was prohibited. The Tamang were addressed in a derogatory manner as ‘Bhote' and ‘Murmi'. The Tamangs have, however, continued to call themselves Tamang.

The Tamangs have a system of six types of societal leaders: Tamba, Ganba, Bonbo, Labonbo, Lama and Choho--to keep the Tamang society continuously alive and dynamic. The six have their respective and important roles to play in the development of Tamang society. The Tamba looks after the cultural aspect and has a very important role to play in marriage ceremonies. The Lama carries out death rites (Ghewa) and undertakes activities related to the Buddhist religion. The Bonbo propitiates the local gods and goddesses and assists by providing treatment to the sick and needy in the village. The Labonbo (Laptaba) keeps alive the history of the clan and lineage through the worship of clan deities. As each thar, or subgroup, has its own Phola or clan deity, there are different Labonbos for each and every subgroup. The Choho looks into cases and dispenses justice and maintains peace, security and wellbeing in society. The Ganba participates in all types of social, political and religious activities. He observes the various activities of society, including whether the Tamba, Bonbo, Lama, Labtaba, Choho, etc have fulfilled their functions as prescribed by rituals and to the best of their ability or not, and evaluates the activities and gives his suggestions. Thus, the six societal leaders or actors continue to make the Tamang society aware of its duties and responsibilities. There are also in Tamang society traditional institutions like Nhangkhor active to undertake socio-cultural activities.

There are more than 100 subgroups (thar and sahathar) within the Tamang, and inter-marriage does not occur within the same subgroup (thar as well as sahathar). Although inter-marriage can occur between a boy, say belonging to the Yonjan subgroup and a girl belonging to the Moktan subgroup, if the mother of both the boy and girl belong to the same subgroup, however, marriage between them is not possible since they are socially recognized as the son and daughter of the same mother. There is the practice of marrying one's maternal uncle's and aunt's daughter. Unlike in Hindu society, Tamang women do not adopt the last name of their husbands following marriage. Their thar or subgroup does not change, the woman remains in the same subgroup her entire life. When she dies, the body cannot be disposed without the presence and permission of her relatives. There is the traditional practice among Tamang daughters of undertaking small economic activities (Pewa) like keeping goats, chicken, etc. This enables the daughter to learn to stand on her feet and makes her self-reliant.

On the occasion of various festival and ceremonies, pujas (worshipping activities) are performed at Gumbas according to Buddhist rituals and injunctions. Along these rituals, Tamangs perform various forms of ancient worships also. They perform Phola venerating the contributions of their ancestors and the history of their earth. Ancestral history is narrated during Phola worship. Similarly the worship of Neda Sipda (deities of land and water) to revere earth as a source of sustenance, worship of Yhulla (Goddess of village) for the prosperity of the villages and the worship of Jyojyomo (most favoured family deity) are also ubiquitous in Tamang societies. Life cycle rituals such as naming ceremony, rice-feeding ceremony, tonsure ceremony, ceremony of giving Nepali Sari (Guniu), marriage ceremony and funeral rite are still prevailing in society. Different ritual experts have different roles in these rituals. A lot of indigenous as well as foreign scholars have conducted research studies on Tamang language and culture. Most illustrious among foreign scholars are Martine Mazaudon (1973), Andras Hofer (1981), Larry Pitter (1981), Brigitte Steinmann (1987), David Holmberg (1989), Thomas E Fricke (1993) and others.

Following the Gorkhali conquest of Nepal in the 18th century, the land owned by the Tamangs was taken away from them and distributed to the ruling Brahmin and Chhetri courtier-class. The Tamangs were then retained as bonded laborers and near-slaves to work these very lands. During the Rana rule, the Tamangs were used as menial labor by the rulers and the courtier-class. They were also prohibited from joining the British Gurkha regiments in India, although the men belonging to other Tibeto-Burman communities - the Gurungs, Magars, Rais and Limbus were permitted. Tamangs were also prevented to join Nepal's own government administration and the military.
Historically, the Tamang people settled in the strategically important districts surrounding the Kathmandu valley. Feeling threatened by this encirclement, the Kathmandu rulers brought them forcibly under central rule and exploited them enough so that they could never rise, as they have not been able to this day. The psychology of the Tamangs took a beating during centuries of economic deprivation, political discrimination, and social marginalization.This is all about information for show our commitment.......if anything goes wrong please feel free to share.....any moment

Best regards
Surya Tamang

Reply by surya tamang on February 24, 2010 at 9:16pm
Name List of Educated Tamangs in Various Field

Phd.

S.No.
Name
Remarks

1
Dr. Ganesh Bal Tamang


2
Dr. Jyoti Tamang
Senior Lecturer, Sikkim Govt. College,
India

3
Dr. Ritendara Tamang
California Institute of Integral Studies, San Francisco

4
Dr. Sunita Yonzan Tamang
Zoologist

5
Dr. G. S. Yonzan Tamang
Botanis
Former Principal, Kalimpong College, Botanist, India

6
Dr. Pralhad Yonzan Tamang


7
Dr. Shera Tamang


8
Dr. Ganesh Yonzan Tamang
Social Development, Nepal

9
Dr. Mahendra P. Lama Tamang


Medical Doctors

S.No.
Name
Remarks

1
Dr. Dol Maya Thokar Tamang
MBBS

2
Dr. Govind Lama Tamang
MBBS

3
Dr. Kamal Lama Tamang
Vet. Doctor

Pilot

S.No.
Name
Remarks

1
Captain Amarjang Tamang


2
Captain Deb Kumar Yonzan Tamang
(NAC)

3
Captain R.K. Lama Tamang
(NAC)

4
Captain Vijaya Lama Tamang


5
Captain Gunjaman Tamang


Engineers

S.No.
Name
Remarks

1.
Eng. Daljit Tamang
Electrical

2
Eng. Hari Tamang
Electrical

3
Eng. L. R. Tamang
Electrical

4
Eng. Keshab Thokar Tamang
Civil

5
Eng. Pemba Kuamr Lama
Civil

6
Eng. Hiralal Moktan
Hydrologist

7
Eng. Raj Kumar Tamang
Civil

8
Eng. Jasmin Moktan Tamang
Agriculture

9
Eng. Ishowar Kumar Lama Tamang
Mechanical

10
Eng. I.R. Tamang


11
Eng. Pemba Lama Tamang


12
Eng. Samden Ghishing Lama Tamang
Automobile

13
Eng. Dhan Bahadur Tamang Pakhrin
Civil

14
Eng. Narendra Tamang
Civil

Reply by Panchaman pakhrin Tamang on February 24, 2010 at 10:55pm
Lhasso phyafulla Surya jee your everythings well and having good study about our culture and histry i feel happy and may our yong guys need to search and be a doctrine hope will do more progress thanks lots

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on February 25, 2010 at 5:37pm
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Thank you so much Surya ji,
Really grateful to your all words and which would help to portrait out the fact of our community. I can estimate your all level of words and the things that you observe is totally appreciable.....
My full favour had just lined up on your wonderful fact views .....

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on February 25, 2010 at 5:42pm
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That's why less no. on such well-renown posts seem to another fact to be considered....

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Chyangba BihanPermalink Reply by Chyangba Bihan on February 26, 2010 at 12:09pm
Dear Manik Lalji,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Someone had said that backwardness is a state of mind. We, Tamangs, have beautiful culture, language and traditions. According to our religion, Buddhism, we are to treat all people equally.

In my humble opinion, I think there are three things that can move us way forward. They are, 1. education 2. education, and 3) education.

We should also make all out efforts to eliminate the social evils, like, use of alcohol, gambling and unnecessary expenditures in the name of social and traditional practices.

I know it is difficult to get to educated when people have hard time in meeting their both ends. But we should learn a lesson from those who have painstakingly followed the path of education and done very well comparatively despite their low income level.

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on February 26, 2010 at 6:40pm
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Thank you so much for your logic views Chyangba Bihan ji....
Somehow the said may work true that "all our backwardness is a state of mind...." We are not well trained and not given higher educations due to which we have no beautiful hands of skills. Education, which controls everything. Education, which is the key to open any knots of problems....
Thanks indeed for your great views to add some efforts to uplift few more, of this back lagged community....

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daya sagar tamangPermalink Reply by daya sagar tamang on March 4, 2010 at 4:05pm
As it is known to us we tamangs are not in respectable post of any sectors . Achievements will always be near if we try but our ancestors and culture has trained to drink,fight and spread illusions in societies.In each and every social crimes we found the involvment of tamang,they never think about how to be forward in wisdom.

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on March 4, 2010 at 5:26pm
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Thank you so much for your wonderful views daya ji.........
I can put all supports on the favour of your views........

Reply by Nehemiah Nyima on March 7, 2010 at 5:06pm
Dear Mr. Manik!!!!!!!!
Thank you very much for your valueable topic. i love it so much, because it has raised a contemporary issues. As some says Some tamangs who are educated, having good wealth and good position are not backward, but forward. This is the case of the tamangs who are in cities and several places not in all places.
If we see in the context of the tamangs in Countryside, They are so backward, they are always in need. They lack of Education, they are under the poverty. We tamangs have many weaknesses, which cause us to be backward. The weaknesses are such as Alchoholic tradition, Shyness and our poor mindsets. We have to change our mindsets. All the problems are in our mindsets, mentality and even concept. Let's create a positive concept and change our mindsets and mentality. And we have to get rid of bad aspect of our tradition and culture continue the good aspect of it. Then some should be modified. Let us do something for our TAMANG COMMUNITY.

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on March 7, 2010 at 8:37pm
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I really appreciate your logic views.........
Modification to ourselves is most important that we must understand this by heart. The trend that still are sucking our community is, indulging oneself on social evils like gambling. We use alcohols to every SHUBHA MUHURTA on the name of preserving our traditions and cultures, but that culture is lagging us more backward. So, blind supports would sometimes stand as crucial force on the way of success.......

Until and unless we reach to the light of education, no possibility of achieving goal for sure...

Thank you Nehemiah Nyima ji, indeed for your all great words.........

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sher bahadur karkiPermalink Reply by sher bahadur karki on March 8, 2010 at 3:56am
your right susma ji
ma karki bhaye pani malai tamang hos wa lama hos sbai sangha
ramaunu naie manab ko yeuta daitto ho
bhanne lagchha ani tesaile ma sabai sangha ramau chhu

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sher bahadur karkiPermalink Reply by sher bahadur karki on March 8, 2010 at 3:58am
ghising ji namaskar
sabai ek hunu naie sadai agadi hune chha

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on March 8, 2010 at 7:23am
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धन्यवाद कार्की जि यहाँको सुझावको लागि ........

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on March 10, 2010 at 5:55pm
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हामी कदमा बलिया छौ तर बुद्धिमा भने अझै पनि बलियो हुन सकेका छैनौ । हामी तामाङहरु अबस्य पनि सक्षम छौ तर सक्षमताको त्यो खुड्किलो पार गर्न भने असमर्थ नै छौ । हाम्रो बलिस्ठतालाई अरुले नै प्रयोग गरेर धेरै अगाडि बढीसकेको स्थिती छ तर हामी भने अझै त्यही अरुलाई माथि पुर्‍याउने खुड्किलो भन्दा केही बन्न सकेका छैनौ !!

हामी हरेक शुभ कार्यमा जाड्,रक्सी जस्ता चिजहरु प्रयोग गर्छौ परम्पराको नाममा । के हामी अझै पनि परम्पराको नाउमा यस किसिमको कार्यलाई निरन्तरता दिएर अगाडि बढ्न सक्छौ ? अबस्य पनि हामी तमाङहरुमा पनि उच्छ पदमा छैनौ भन्नु स्वाभाबिक हुन्न । हामी तामाङहरुमा दुई किसिमको समुह छन् :-एक समुह धेरै अगाडि र अर्को समुह धेरै पछाडि(त्यही त्यही सत्रौ सताब्दितिरको जस्तो ).... यी दुई समुह बिचको अन्तरलाई हामीले हटाउन सकेका छैनौ । यही कारण हामीमा एक किसिमको असक्षमता देखिएको छ । हामी अरुको बिरोध गर्छौ र right को कुरा गर्छौ तर हामीमा त्यो पदको लागि चाहिने योग्यता छैन भने, यस्तो माग राख्नु उचित हो र ? ताम्सालिङ आइहाल्यो, अनि भोली हामीलाई त्यस क्षेत्रको सम्पूर्ण अधिकार दिहाले पनि हामीमा नेत्रित्व गर्ने क्षमता छैन भने कसरी बिकास गर्न सकिन्छ ।

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Panchaman pakhrin TamangPermalink Reply by Panchaman pakhrin Tamang on March 15, 2010 at 2:40pm
LHASSO PHYAFULLA MANIK JEE THATS SURE .

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on March 15, 2010 at 3:14pm
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धन्यवाद पञ्च जि यहाँको समर्थनको लागि ।

Reply by Anil lama on March 15, 2010 at 4:47pm
Lasso phayfulla Manik jee.
Hami Tamang ahile agadi chhu kina ki yo vartaman awastha lai awalokan garyo vane sajilai thaha hun6 mitra. hijo ko samanti shasan le hami tamang lai 1uta jagirle vadera rakheko thiyo, Ajja tesko antya vayako6,Malai lag6 yi samrajya vadi harule hami lai kunai mauka dinu hudaina vanne manasaya thiyo,Ajja Ayara Tamang ko tyga ra Validani le yo paribatan garna saphal vayako 6,Ajai pani samati sosak haru Tamang haru agadi badeko herna chahanana tesaile Job samma Tamang jasari Tamang chutari ma jastai aphanu adikarko lagi unity hudaina tabasamma yo ratrako matiyarle Tamang haru lai agadi Badna didaina yo satya ho. Ajja ko Awasyakta yahi ho sathi,hijo ko jastai ajja pani Vahraman vadi soch liyara hindu tanasahaharu Tamang haruko pachhi lageko 6,yo kura aheleko Rajya punarsamrachana khaka herera pani thaha hunchha,jijo ko vandama gareko lathi charge hawai farinng le pani yo Haruwa sakarko nehati prasta hunachha Hami Tamang lai kasle Pachhi pardai 6 vanne kura . sathi haru Aba tamang haru pani Hatama dahi jamara basne wala 6aina,Tamang haru pani kunai sakti ko samu kamjor 6aina tesaile hami tamang 1 jut huna awasyak 6 hamro Tamsaling rajya prati lagi."Magera adikar paidaina khosera linaparchha" vanne ukti atmasath gardai Voliko ujyalo Tamsaling rajya ko lagi Tamang mukti ko andolanma satha dina sampurna tamang harulai anurod gardachhu. tesaile tamang haru agadi vadne maukabata kunai pani Tamang Nachhutun,. Tamsaling rajya jindabad!

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on May 26, 2010 at 4:51pm
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अनिल मित्रलाई बिशेष धन्यवाद आफ्नो महत्वपूर्ण तर्क अनि बिचारको लागि । हामीमाथि लादिएको दमनलाई अब बिस्तारै निस्तेज पार्दै लानु हाम्रो लागि बुद्धिमानी हुन्छ । तपाईंको "एकजुट हुनुपर्छ" भन्ने मुल आशय उचित हो । जबसम्म हामीमा यस भावनाको बिजारोपन हुन्न तबसम्म हामीले गर्न सकिने वाला केही छैन ।

हामी तामाङहरु बिभिन्न पार्टीमा आस्था राख्छौ तर तामाङहरुको बिकासको लागि भने हामीले पार्टीको मान्यतामा नरहेर "तामाङ हित" को लागि सोच्नुपर्छ । अझै पनि हामी बिभिन्न क्षेत्रमा ठगिरहेको अवस्था छ । हामीलाई हलि-भरिया बनाइ फाईदा लुट्नेहरु अझै छन् । सचेत मन र सचेत बिचारबाट नै महत्वपूर्ण बिकासको खुड्किलो पार गर्न सकिन्छ ।

राज्य पुन:सङरचनाको कुरामा हामीले आफ्नो महत्वपूर्ण सहभागी जनाउनुपर्छ । तर सभागि जनाउदैमा केही हुने वाला छैन त्यहा हाम्रो अधिकारको लागि आवाज उठाउने ब्यक्ती पनि चाहिन्छ । तपाईंले भनेजस्तै "मागेर अधिकार पाइदैन खोसेर लिनुपर्छ" भन्ने भनाइमा मेरो पनि सहमत । ताम्सालिङ हाम्रो अधिकार हो त्यसैले त यसको लागि हामी एकजुट हुनु जरुरी छ । तामाङहरु मिलेर अगाडि बढ्दा समस्या आँफै डराएर भागनेछन अनि हाम्रो सुनिश्चित भबिस्यको खाका आँफै कोरिनेछन् ।

पुन:धेरै-धेरै धन्यवाद तपाईंको महत्वपूर्ण बिचारको लागि ।

Reply by chAnchAL lOPChAN on May 26, 2010 at 7:34pm
HAMI NEPALI HARU MADHYA KAAM SICHCHHIT ANI DHERAI VANDA DHERAI GARIBIKO REKHA MUNI 6AU ANII HAMI SWOVABAILE SOJO CHHAU CHHAL KAPAT GARNA JANDAINAU, AGADI BADNA KO LAAGI POWER, PAISA ANI THORAI TEDE HUNU PARCHHA JASTO LAGCHHA ......FREAK

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on May 26, 2010 at 8:47pm
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Fr3Akz LoPchAn ji धन्यवाद तपाईंको बिचारको लागि । अबस्य पनि हामी नेपालीहरुको स्तर अझै माथी उक्लिन सकेको छैन, अनि तपाईंले भनेजस्तै "त्यसमा पनि हामी तामाङहरु त सोझा छलकपट् गर्न जान्दैनौ" । यस्तै कारणहरु हुन सक्छन हामी पिछडिनुपरेको ...........

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rabin lama (yonjan)Permalink Reply by rabin lama (yonjan) on May 26, 2010 at 10:25pm
LASSO MANIK DAI
malai lagcha tamang haru ahile harne ho bhane kohi bhanda kham china pahela pahela tamang haru lai aru la nai aaghadi bhadnu andeyako jasto lagcha..........

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Roshan Dong TamangPermalink Reply by Roshan Dong Tamang on May 27, 2010 at 9:49am
Ahile wa bartamanko kura garne ho bhane Tamang haru pachi pareko jasto lagdaina. Harek sectors ma Tamang harule chaso liyekai cha, creative works garekai chan. For example; Tamang Chautari pani tamang harule nai create gareko website ho yo kurama tapai nai sakchi cha. Yaha pani yes Tamang Chautariko board member hunu huncha.
Aba hijo ko kura garne ho bhane pakkai pani hami Tamang haru sabai sectors ma pachi pareko manna sakchau. Yo sabai (oppurtunities) awasar napaunako karanle ho. Hami tamang haru sojo, sidha, hardworker, emandar hune bhayeka le nai hamimathi dabab athawa annaye bhayeko ho jasto lagdacha. Education ra Oppurtinity bata hami lai tada rakhiyo. Yedi hami le Education ra Oppertinity paune ho bhane pakkai pani hami yo aawasta ma hune thiyenau.
Abako din ma hami ke garna sakchau for our new generations. Yesko lagi hami sabaile sochera ek bhayera aghi badyou bhane pakkai pani bholi hami sabai Garbaka saath bhanna sakchau ki hami ko hi bhanda pachi chainau.
Thank you Manil ji. Ro shan

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on May 27, 2010 at 11:25am
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रविन आलेलाई कमेन्टस्को लागि धन्यवाद । पहिले जुन अवस्थामा हामी दबिएर बस्नुपर्थ्यो त्यो अवस्थाबाट धेरै पर पुगिसकेको अवस्था छ । हामीमा क्षमाता नभएको पनि होइन तर मौका नदिएको भने पक्कै हो । अहिले हामी विश्वको बिभिन्न ठाउमा छौ अनि इज्जतका साथ आफ्नो कुशल क्षमतालाई पनि प्रस्तुत गर्दै अरुको दाजोमा आफुलाई उभ्याइरहेको नै छौ । यो हाम्रो लागि निकै गर्बको कुरा हो ।

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on May 27, 2010 at 11:42am
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धेरै खुशी लाग्यो रोशन जिको महत्वपूर्ण र तर्कसहितको बिचार जान्न पाउदा । इतिहासका केही काला खन्डहरुले हामीलाई अघि बढ्न दिएनन् तर पनि हामीमा क्षमतमा भने अगाडि नै थियौ । हाम्रो त्यो क्षमतालाई अरुले राम्रोसँग प्रयोग गरे, फाईदा हामीलाई होइन तिनै फाईदा लुट्नेहरुलाइ भए । ब्रिटिश आर्मि बन्न समेत हामीले आफ्नो जात(थर) नै फेर्नुपरेको कालो ईतिहास हामीसामु छ । त्यसैले त अहिले तामाङहरु वास्तविक जनसङ्ख्या मापन गर्न पनि गाह्रो अवस्था छ ।

तपाईंले भनेजस्तै अहिले तामाङहरु कुनै पनि क्षेत्रमा पछी छैनौ र हामी कम्पिटिसनको लागि बराबरको हैसियत राख्छौ । तर बाध्यता भनु कि हाम्रो तामाङ समाजको कम्जोरी, शिक्षित बर्गको दाजोमा अशिक्षित धेरै छन् । जसले गर्दा जुन रुपमा द्रुत गतिमा हामी अगाडि बढ्नुपरेको थियो त्यो सम्भव हुन सकेको छैन ।

मैले पहिले पनि केही कुरा जानकारी गरेको छु कि, "हामी तामाङहरुको पनि दुई गुट रहेका छन् । एक गुट(समुह) धेरै उच्च स्तरको(पढाइ+धन+अन्य) चिजहरुमा भने, अर्को समुह धेरै पछी वा पिछडिएको(जस्लाई खान-लाउनकै लागि पनि पीर छन्).....
यी दुई समुहबिचको अन्तर यत्ती धेरै छन् कि, एकले अर्कालाई भेट्नै नसक्ने । त्यसैले यो ठुलो असमानताको खाडललाई हामीले पुर्नै पर्छ...........।"

तपाईंको बिचारमा मेरो शतप्रतिशतको समर्थन, हामी तामाङहरु मिलेर गए के छ र असम्भव ।

Reply by Roshan Dong Tamang on May 27, 2010 at 12:23pm
Thank you Manik ji for your kindness repply. Ahile sammako yes bisleshan bata maile pani dherai kura haru janna paye. Bastab ma 75 persent bhanda jyada Tamang haru garibi(Poor) ra ashichit( Uneducated) rahechan.
Aba ko hami yuba (Tamang Youth) haruko resposibilities ke ho? Awarness Progremme for education, Health and creation skill develop training for employment. Yi kaam haru hamile garne sakincha. Yesko lagi economical arthat financial sourceko aawashyak pardacha. This is not a big problem for us if we are together. We can do some fund rasing progremme like; Musical programe, film charity show, donation etc. Yedi Tamang Chautari le yi kaam haru garna intrest rakhdacha bhane pakkai pani hamro sahayog rahane cha. Yesari hami pichadiyeka Tamang barga harulai jilla jillama, gaun gaun ma, ghar ghar ma gayera sahayog garna sakincha. Malai thahacha hami Tamang Yuba haru social work garna intrest rakhne dherai chan, uni haru pani aawasar athawa ramro leading garne sanstha ko khoji ma chan. Yo kaam Tamang Chautarile sajilai garna sakdacha jasto malai lagdacha. Thank you Manik ji

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on May 27, 2010 at 12:39pm
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फेरी पनि बिशेष धन्यवाद ब्यक्त गर्न चाहन्छु तपाईंको महत्वपूर्ण बिचारको लागि । धेरै साथीहरुबाट धेरै खाले प्रतिकृयाहरु पनि आए, यसबाट के-कस्तो समस्याहरु रहेछन त हामी तामाङ समाज भित्र भन्ने कुराको पनि जानकारी पाए । तपाईंको बिचारले अझ बिषयलाई स्पस्ट पार्न बिशेष सहयोग पुगेको छ । अबस्य पनि हामी तामाङहरुको हितको लागि खट्ने र सुन्दर समाजको निर्माण गर्न अहिलेको तामाङ युवाहरुको जोश र जागर नै हो ।

तामाङहरुको हितको लागि भनेर बिभिन्न तामाङ संघसस्थाहरु खोलेकै छन् तर जुन रुपमा सुरुमा हित गर्छु भनेर खोलेका हुन्छ त्यो पुरा गर्दैन र अल्पायुमै सस्थाको बिजोग भएको तितो सत्य पनि हामी सामु छ । तर तामाङ चौतारीको भने दिनानुदिन लोकप्रियाता बढी नै रहेको छ । हामी चौतारी समुहले अरु सस्थाहरुले भन्दा छुट्टै तरिकाले तामाङ समाजभित्र रहेका समस्याहरुलाई पहिचान गर्दै, समाधानको बाटो खोज्ने प्रयास बिभिन्न चरनमा गर्दै आइरहेका छौ । कहिले हेल्थ क्याम्प गरी गाउमा रहेका गरीब जनताको दैलोमा पुगेका छौ त, कहिले विश्वमा छरिएर रहेका तामाङहरुलाई एक ढिक्का बनाउन बिभिन्न खाले कार्यक्रम गरी नै राखेका छौ । साथ र सहयोगको कारनले नै आज तामाङ चौतारी यो सफलताको खुड्किलो चढि नै रहेको छ ।

तपाईंले भनेजस्तै "फन्ड राइज"को लागि पनि बिभिन्न activities लाई समेट्ने प्रयास गरी नै राखेका छौ । देशको राजनीतिक अन्यौलताले गर्दा तामाङ चौतारीले गर्न लागिएको "तामाङ फिल्म एन्ड म्युजिक अवार्ड" सारीएको छ । यस्तै अन्य कार्यक्रमहरु गर्ने हाम्रो आगामी कार्यक्रम तय पनि भएको छ । सम्पूर्ण साथीहरुको साथ र हौसला हामीलाई निरन्तर रुपमा अगाडि बढाउन प्रेरणादायी भूमिका रहेको छ ।

Reply by Roshan Dong Tamang on May 27, 2010 at 1:13pm
Thanks Manik ji once again. Hami Tamang Community ko halpal hardam subhakamana cha, tapai haru aafno kaam ra karyekram jari rakhnus. Tathai katai kunai samasye aaye pakkai pani hami desh bidesh ma raheka Tamang harule Tamang Chautarilai Unit lai sahayog garne cha bhanne malai lagdacha.

Tamang Chautarile garne kaam haruko barema jankari garaye, malai lagcha ajha ramro huncha jasto lagdacha. Kina ki ahile samma hamile thane ka thiyou ki Tamang Chautari matra entertainment ra feelings share garne thau ho. Tara bastab ma Tamang Chautari le aru pani thuprai Social relief Programme gareka rahecha. Dhanyebad denai parcha Tamang Chautari Unit lai hami sabaile. Wish you all the best and success of each and every works to Tamang Chautari Unit.

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on June 14, 2010 at 12:21pm
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चौतारीको स्थापनाकालदेखी नै हामीले सबै साथीहरुको सल्लाह-सुझावहरुलाई लिदै र मनन गर्दै आइरहेका छौ । कहिलेकाही निरश पार्न बिभिन्न समयमा "भाइरस"को रुपमा बदनाम गर्ने हैसियतले आएका थिए, तर बिस्तारै हाम्रो unity लाई देखेर तिनिहरु आँफै बिचल्लित हुने र अत्ति गर्नेहरुलाई चौतारीको सदस्यबाट नै हटाएका छौ पनि । हामिले सकेसम्मको प्रयास भने जारी नै राखौला, त्यसमा पनि तपाईंहरु जस्तो मित्र हुँदासम्म अगाडि नबढ्ने त कुरा नै हुन्न नि ।

कहिले काही गफगाफको हल्लाले पनि राम्रै रमाइलो हुन्छ, र साथीहरुलाई बोर लागेको बेला यस्तो च्याट मार्फत आफ्नो रमाइलो कुराहरु बाडेर रमाइलो गर्न पनि सक्छन् मित्रहरुले । त्यसैले च्याटभित्रको संसारलाई मात्र हेर्दा अली पूर्ण जानकारी नहोला कि ? बिभिन्न स्तरका बुद्धिजिबिहरुको बिचारलाई यहाँले सर्सर्ती हेर्न सक्नुहुन्छ । हाम्रै तामाङ साथीहरुले लेख्नुभएको कृति तथा अन्य सामाग्रीहरु पनि हेर्न सक्नुहुन्छ । मान्छेको आ-आफ्नो सोचाइको कुरा हो, अरु समक्ष कसरी आफुलाई प्रस्तुत गर्ने भन्ने बारे । आफु सभ्य भएपछी अरुले पनि त्यही अनुसारको व्यबहार गर्ने नै त हो नि ।

यस किसिमको सहयोगको हामी सधैं अपेक्षा राख्दछौ । थुजेछे ...........

Reply by Saroj Moktan on June 14, 2010 at 2:32pm
मनिक सम्धी जी पहिला हामी आफै पछि बस्यो, अनि हामीलाई राज्य संयन्त्रले पछि पा¥यो सँगसगै हामी आफै फेरि पछि सर्दैगयो, अनि राज्य संयन्त्रले पछि राखेर पछि भएको देखियो अनि अगाडी जानखोज्दा पनि पछाडी नै धकेल्ने संयन्त्र बनाईयो । पछाडी बस्दा पनि हामीले आनन्द महशुस गरियो । त्यही आनन्द महशुसलाई राज्य संयन्त्रले साच्चिकै आनन्द रहेछ भनेर वास्ता गरिएन । त्यसो भएर हामी अहिले बिउझीदा पछाडी रहेछ भन्ने महशुस गरियो । आफै र राज्य संचालकको कुदृष्टिले हामी पछि परेको भन्न सकिन्छ ।
फेरि अगाडी बढ्न पनि खाली राज्यले मात्रै गर्नुपर्छ भन्ने होईन राज्यको सबै समुदाय वर्ग लिंङ्गलाई अगाडी बढाउनु पर्ने प्रमुख कर्तव्य र दायित्व हो भने हामी आफै पनि तत्पर हुनपर्छ आगाडी बढ्न । सामथ्र्य बढाउनको लागि राज्यले सहयोग गर्नुपर्छ भन्ने हो मेरो विचार ।

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on June 14, 2010 at 3:06pm
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धेरैधेरै धन्यवाद सरोज सम्धिलाई आफ्नो महत्वपूर्ण बिचार राखिदिनुभएकोमा । तपाईंको बिचारमा मेरो पनि सहमत । त्यसैले हामीले आफ्नो ठाउबाट जे-जती गर्न सकिन्छ त्यसलाई भने पुरा गर्नै पर्छ । अब पहिलेको जस्तो दबिएर बस्नुपर्ने अवस्था हाम्रो छैन । यही मौकालाई हामीले हातबाट फुत्काउन दिनुहुन्न पनि ।

राज्य पुनर्स्थापनाको कुरा चलिरहेको अवस्थामा हाम्रो तामाङहरुको उपस्थिती न्युन देखिन्छ । जब हाम्रो आवाज बोल्नेहरु पछी छन् त हामीले चाहेको जस्तो परिवर्तन कहाँ सम्भव रहन्छ र । एक अर्काको लागि एकताको हात बाध्दै अगाडि बढ्नुपर्छ । हामीले चाहे के नै छैन र गर्न नसक्ने ?

तपाईंको महत्वपूर्ण बिचारको लागि धेरैधेरै धन्याद सम्धी ।

Reply by CA. SOHIL TAMANG. on June 14, 2010 at 3:26pm
who said that we tamang people are backward ?IF SO THEN ,i m going to ask a question.IS THERE ANY PEOPLE GREATER THAN PRASANT TAMANG ?

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on July 2, 2010 at 7:27pm
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Thank you so much Sunita ji, for your views.
Just observing the facts with few specific places or specific people, can not portrait out whole figure of our society. Until and unless you visit to the the every doors, fact can not be displayed to your eyes. Thousands of people are still on the state of difficulties, and pitiable conditions are always trying to surround them.

The quest for bread is only their aim, and how can be they a part of civilized society? So, i would kindly request you to extract out the fact first and then better we discuss about it........

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सुरेन्द्र थिङ ( तामङ् )सिन्धुलीPermalink Reply by सुरेन्द्र थिङ ( तामङ् )सिन्धुली on July 6, 2010 at 1:41pm
हामी तामाङहल्ह्स्सो फ्याफुल्ल्य मणिक
शही भान्नु भयो मणिक जि हुनुत हामी तामाङ हरु को कुनै पनि क्षेत्र म पच्छी पर्नु को मुख्या कारण हो शिक्षा '
अनी हाम्रो बिचार सोच हरु हामी तामङमा अली थोरै भएर हो ल जस्तो लाग्छ मेरो बिचारम मणिक जि रु किन अहिले सम्म सबै क्षेत्रमा पछि परिरहेका छौ त ? के हामीलाई अरुले पछि पारेका हौ त ?

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on July 7, 2010 at 11:33am
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लासो फ्याफुल्ला सुरेन्द्र जि ।
तपाईंको बिचारमा मेरो पनि सहमत,,शिक्षा हाम्रो तेश्रो आँखाको रुपमा पनि चिन्न सक्छौ । तर हाम्रा धेरै दाजुभाइ र समाजभित्र तेश्रो आँखा खोल्नबाट बन्चित् छन् । हामी बलिस्ठ छौ तर त्यो बलिस्ठताको फाईदा लुटेका छन् अरुले नै । केवल हामी सिढी बानिरहेका छौ र हामीलाई सिढी बनाएर अरु नै पुगेका छन् त्यो सुन्दर ठाउमा । यस अर्थमा चेतानाको कमी भनेर मान्न सकिन्छौ ।

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on July 13, 2010 at 4:28pm
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धेरैधेरै धन्यवाद यहाँलाई प्रतिकृयाको लागि । खुशी लाग्यो तपाईंको सम्पूर्ण भावना सुन्न पाउदा । तपाईंको बिचारप्रति सादर प्रनाम पनि । मैले केही कुराहरु वेबसाइट मार्फत पढेको थिए भने केही कुराहरु साथीहरुसँगको छलफलबाट थाहा पाएको पनि । त्यही आधारमा मैले आफ्नो बिचार ब्यक्त गरे पनि ।

एक किसिमले धर्मप्रतिको हाम्रो सहिस्नुता तपाईं मित्रले भनेजस्तै अत्ती राम्रो मान्नुपर्छ नेपालको सन्दर्भमा । हामी मान्छौ फरक-फरक धर्म अनि आस्था पनि राख्छौ फरक-फरक चिजहरुमा, तर पनि सम्मान सबै धर्मको गर्नुपर्छ । मेरो भनाइको तात्पर्य त्यो थिएन कि, बनाउनै हुन्न दुई-दुई वटा हल छुट्टाछुट्टै । यो हुनेखानेको एक उदाहरण पो प्रस्तुत गर्नु भाको हो कि उहाले ? धन हुनेले अनेक गर्छन्, त्यसैको एक नमुना उदाहरण जस्तो लाग्छ ।

मेरो भनाइ के हो भने, कोही पैसा धेरै भएर अनेक थरी गर्छन् त कोही बिहान बेलुका छाक टार्न पनि धौधौ छन्, हाम्रै तामाङ समाजभित्र । त्यसैले त यो दुई बिशाल खाल्डोलाई पुर्नुपर्छ भन्ने मेरो आशय । हुन त भाग्यको कुरा पनि हो कोही धनी हुनु कोही गरीब हुनु । तर पनि तामाङ समाजको यदी वास्तविक रुपमा हित गर्ने हो भने यी दुई असमानतालाई एउटै धरातलमा ल्याउनै पर्छ ।

अर्को काम गर्न राखेको महिलाको बिषयमा केही भन्न मन लाग्यो । मैले त्यो कुरा एउटा कसैले लेखेको लेखमा पढेको थिए । अनि पढेअनुसार आफ्नै बिश्लेशन त्यसरी पोखाइदिए । मैले अबैध सम्बन्ध थियो भनेर इङगीत गर्न खोजेको पक्कै होइन,,तर मालिकको दिमागलाई काम्दारले चलाऊनुपर्ने स्थिति सिर्जना हुँदा अरुले के कस्तो सोच्छन भन्ने सवाल मात्र उठाउन खोजेको हुँ । म यसबारे अझै बिस्त्रित रुपमा बुझेर यहाँलाई जानकारी गर्ने छु । हामी तामाङहरुमा एक किसिमको अधुरो मनोबल रहेको कुरालाई ध्यानाकर्षण गर्न चाहेको थिए, तर तपाईंको बुझाई अली फरक हुन पुगेछ । गुनासो पनि छैन मलाई, किनभने एउटै कुरालाई सोच्ने दिमाग फरक फरक अबस्य हुन्छन् ।

ईतिहासका काला कर्तुतहरुलाई चटक्कै बिर्सनु भएजस्तो लाग्यो तपाईं मित्रले । जुन रुपमा हामी दमनमा पारीएका थियौ, त्यो हाम्रो मुटुलाई नै चिरा पार्ने एक तितो सत्यको रुपमा रहेको छ । हाम्रो ईतिहासका कुराहरु जलाईएका र तामाङहरुलाई नै सखाप पार्ने सड्यन्त्रका कुराहरुलाई के हामीले बिर्सन मिल्छ ? हामी कुनै पनि क्षेत्रमा पछी परेका थिएनौ, तर नेपाल एकिकरनको नाममा सम्पूर्ण तामाङहरुको अधिकार छिनियो,,स्वतन्त्रपुर्बक बाच्ने अधिकार छिनियो । तर पनि हामीले सह्यौ धेरै,,त्यही अप्ठ्यारा स्थितीहरुबाट हामी पार गर्दै आजको स्थितीसम्म आइपुगिसकेका छौ । अझै पनि हामी सँग वास्तविक तथ्याङ्क छैन कि, के कत्ती सङ्ख्यामा तामाङहरु छन् भनेर । किनभने हाम्रो पुर्खाले लाहुरे वा कुनै ठेकेदारको पदमा आसिन हुन थर नै फेर्नुपर्ने अवस्था थियो । जस्ले गर्दा हाम्रो थर घले,राइ,गुरुङ हुँदा हुँदै अहिले सम्मको सन्ततिसम्म आउँदा त्यही थर रहन गयो ।

मेरो बिचार पढ्दा तपाईंलाई जातीबादी कुरा गरेझै लाग्न सक्छ, तर जातित्वको कुरालाई पनि हामीले प्राथमिकता दिनै पर्छ जस्तो मेरो ब्यक्तिगत धारणा हो । जबसम्म तपाईं भित्र तामङ हुँ भन्ने कुराको बिकास हुन्न नि तबसम्म, यो समाजको सुन्दर परिकल्पना गर्न चुक्नुहुन्छ ।

Reply by Panchaman pakhrin Tamang on July 13, 2010 at 5:01pm
lhasso lhasso la hai hajur haruko lekh padera khusi lagew jut try more and more progress and find out our old books, note histry good luck and wish you all the best. Eduation sector to be booming and lets apply brain drain system for tamang bye tamang thanks lot

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on July 13, 2010 at 5:39pm
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लासो फ्याफुल्ला पञ्चमान जिलाई पनि........
अबस्य पनि साथीहरुमा एकअर्काको कुराहरु साटासाटले धेरै कुराहरु थाहा पाए मैले पनि । मलाई तामाङसम्बन्धी सामाग्रीहरु पढन बिशेष रुची लाग्छ । केही आफुले जानेका कुराहरु साट्ने गर्छु त केही मित्रहरुबाट यस्तै छलफलको माध्यमबाट । तपाईंलाई धन्यवाद .....

ER POST AND WELL FURNISHED TAMANG IN NEPAL. IF YOU COMPARE WITH THAKALI WE ARE SO DOWN POLITICAL SOCIELLY ,ECONOMICALLY AND VERIOUS FIELD BECAUSE THAKALI MAY BE AROUND 50 THOUSANDS IN NEPAL BUT TAMANG 9% PERSENT OF TOTAL POPULATION ACCORDING TO FIGURE WE ARE INVOLVING VERIOUS FIELD WHICH IS AVOIDED BYE SOCIETY AND LEGAL RULLES SUCH A MURDER, DRUGS USER,DRUGS SELLER ,GANG FIGHTER.
WE ARE SO LOYAL,STRIGHT , HOUNEST AND WE ARE NOT USING ZIGZAG ROUT FOR ANY PORPUSE BUT PEOPLE DIRECTING TO DO THIS WAY FOR THEIRE KIND AND PROFITE FOR VERRIOUS VIEW.
WHY WE ARE SO ? LACK OF EDUCATION ,POVERTY, UNKNOWN ,ONE MAJOR PROBLEM IS GENETIC DISORDER MAY WE HAVE TO EXCHANGE MARRIEGE PROPSALS LIKE EASTERN NEPAL OF TAMANG NEED TO MARRY WEST NEPAL OF TAMANG.IF WE DO SO MAY OUR TAMANG BOLLD WILL PURYFY WHICH ARE COMING FROM PHUPU CHELA MAMA CHELA AND WE CAN EXCHANGE ,SHARE OUR KNOWLEDGE MAY WE CAN PROGRESS MORE THAN NOW AND MAY WE USE TRY TO MAKE GOOD UNITY FOR PEACEFULLY NO VIOLANCE NO CRIMINAL MORE SOCIAL AND AND STRONG POWER TO RULLES NEPAL GOVERMENT OBSENCE OF TAMANG OTHER POLITICAL LEADER THEY DO ONLY ACTING NO REALL PROGRESS . THANKS AND WISH GOOD

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Gajen Negi TamangPermalink Reply by Gajen Negi Tamang on July 29, 2010 at 4:59pm
Yeah, this is absolutly rite. we tamang people must be unite.

Reply by Thakur Man Lama on July 29, 2010 at 5:02pm
Panchmanji,

I really appreciate your view. We all know why the tamang community is lacking every field . We know reasons because we have seen it, taken it. But we still fail to rise up. Because we are not trying hand out on our creative vision.

We dream. We dream freedom. We dream our rights. We dream equalities. We dream beautiful society where we can have all these aspect. We know how to gain this. But whenever the word implementing it comes we see our poverty then. We see our illiterate then. We see our lack of common unity then. Then we move backwards. Will this type of our habit make us success in fulfilling dream we see every each day ?

Yes, it is true that only few tamangs are in high post. Otherwise the state administration is ruled by Bahun, Chhetris. I find that ( from various replies, various resources, various says ) not having reigning on state is our weakness that made us to live in suffering. But I disagree. As I say earlier, we are weak only due to our weakness thought. Why don’t we over come out from this habit ?

One thing I must say that we see this question in each and every forum of Tamang : “Why tamang community is lacking every field ? Who is responsible for this ?” My question is why we not ask what should to be done for upraising the tamang community ? Why not ask for creative vision ? Why not ask for constructive planning ? Why not ask for uniting to gain the goal ?

Some may say this is hurry to think like this without having full knowledge on the problems we are facing. I agree with this. But fact is that we are still seemed to be pleased to hanging this question today in spite of knowing every problem. Then how can we achieve the path of glorious, path of success ?

Reply by सुरेन्द्र थिङ ( तामङ् )सिन्धुली on August 5, 2010 at 12:37pm
मणिक जि धन्यवाद हजुर लाई
ल्ह्स्सो फ्याफुल्ल्य ,मणिक जि मेरो विचारमा ,हामी तामाङ पच्छी पर्नु को मुख्य कारण ,सबै
भन्दा मुल कारणहो शिक्षा हो मणिक जि ,कसैसँगापनी जन्मा सित क्षमता हुँदैन । अफुमा
केकुराको कमी कम्जोरी छ त्येसलाइ पुरा गर्नु बिभिन्न तालिम लिन सकिन्छ । हो यो
कुरामा हामी तामाङ परिवारमा पच्छी पारीरहेछ जस्तो लाग्छ मेरो विचारमा मणिक जि
अबसर भनेको कसैले ल्यईदिने कुरो होईना । यस्लाई आँफैले खोजनु सक्ने क्षमता हुनुपर्छ ।
योकुरो हामी तामाङमा कमी छ ,जस्तो लाग्छ मेरो विचारमा ,र ज्ञान सिकेर कहिल्यै सिकिदैन
नयाँ काम साधै सुझारु हुनुपर्छ अफुलाई साशत्त बनऊन बिभिन्न तालिम लिई रहनु पर्छ ,
मरो विचारमा मणिक जि केही गल्ती भएमा क्षमगरी दिनुहोला धन्यबाद हजुरलाई । सुरेन्द्र थिङ को विचारमा

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nirupam tamang (singdan)Permalink Reply by nirupam tamang (singdan) on August 10, 2010 at 6:50pm
म एउटा तमाङ जाती को भएको करण ले गर्दा मलाई तपाईं को यो प्रश्न अत्यन्त नै राम्रो लाग्यो
हामी तमाङहरु सँग ज्ञान बुद्धी बिबेक सबै हुँदा हुँदै पनि आज हामी अरु भन्दा पछी छौ किन त
किन कि हामी तमाङ जती धेरै स्वभिलम्भी बन्न खोज्छौ
हामी स्वभिलम्भी को नाम म हामी न चाहिने धोङ गर्छौ र आफ्नो खुट्टा म आँफै बन्चरो हान्छौ
कुर गरौ तमाङहरु किन पछी छन त पहिले क तमाङ हरु न पदेर पछी पर्‍यो भने अहिले का तमाङहरु पढेर पनि अभुज भएर
तमाङहरु कला सन्स्क्रितीका नाममा जाड रक्सी खान्छन र भन्छन जात ले पाएको के यो ठीक हो त
अहिले का युवा हरु जुवा तास जाड रक्सी दिस्को रेस्तौरेन्ट आदी म ब्यत छन भने कसरी तमाङ जाती अगाडि बद्न सकिन्छ ?
म पनि तमाङ भएको करण ले गर्द मलाई पनि दु:ख लाग्छ तर म के नै गर्न सक्छु र ?
तमाङ जाती हरु बहादुरि को नाम म आफ्नै दाजु भाई सँग कात मार गर्छन् भनिन्छ नि भाई फुते गावर लुटे तेसै ले हामी पछी परेका चौ
यो प्रश्न को लागि धन्यवाद खुशी लाग्यो कि तमाङ को बारे म सोच्ने पनि कोही छ

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on August 10, 2010 at 7:05pm
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पञ्चमान जि,लासो फ्याफुल्ला अनि थुजेछे पनि महत्वपूर्ण बिचारको लागि ।
I would like to put my words on your wonderful logic views with regards. Exactly we can count those people who are supposed to be on the top posts, even on fingers. Very few number can observe and definitely this is matter of great dissatisfaction that continuously bite me as well.

As you raised an important fact about our lacking on political and economical assets do we poses. Of course, just we can have a clear figure of this society. Confronting with many miscellaneous problems, we are trying to proceed our steps to get a entire progress. I can't explain my words for the braveness of Tamang for their immense desires for achieving goals, as good things that we can take for sure.

I agree with the point that "greater number of the murder cases, there had seen a involvements of Tamang" . Exactly the reason is we are just use of others and we just follow blindly what others say, and result always hurt us. Our identity just diminishes with such acts of doing and uncertain journey just begins with difficulties.

Thanks indeed for your all great words......

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on August 10, 2010 at 7:09pm
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Thank you so much Gajen ji for your all words of motivations. Time has just come in front of us and demands for our unity.........

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on August 10, 2010 at 7:21pm
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Thakur ji,
I always respect your all true words of heart. Our attempts should be concerned to find out what the jest of facts that constantly leading us towards backwards. As I got many facts ideas about how we were and are lagging behind so far?

The discussion not only includes for " Why tamang community is lacking every field ? Who is responsible for this ?” but you can relate this topic for the "why we not ask what should to be done for upraising the tamang community ? Why not ask for creative vision ? Why not ask for constructive planning ? Why not ask for uniting to gain the goal ?" The subjects of matters you come out with, are most considerable. Yes, we should have clear vision and mission continuous walking just will lead us once to the destiny.

Lets hope and lets do some concrete things with together so that a history would line up.

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on August 10, 2010 at 7:30pm
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लासो फ्याफुल्ला थुजेछे सुरेन्द्र जि आफ्नो महत्वपूर्ण बिचारको लागि ।
वास्तवमै यो एक सोचनिय बिषय बनेको छ । हामी तामाङहरुमा इच्छाशक्तिको कमी पक्कै देखिन्न तर शिप र क्षमताको कमिले जुन रुपमा प्रगती गर्नुपर्ने त्यो सम्भव भइराखेको छैन । तागतिलो बलियो शरीर छौ हामीसँग तर त्यो बलियो शरीरलाई अर्कैले आफ्नै कामको लागि प्रयोग गरेर फाईदा लुटिरहेका छन् । हामी आफ्नो लागि भन्दा अरुको प्रयोगमा बिकेका छौ ।

पक्कै पनि हामीमा अझै पनि चेतनाको स्तर पर्याप्त भएको छैन । शिक्षा क्षेत्रमा हामी कमजोर छौ । हामी आँफैमा जब सक्षम छैनौ भने अरुलाई मात्र दोश दिएर कहाँ हुन्छ र ? अर्को कुरा सक्षम केही ब्यक्तिहरुलाई मौका पर्याप्त दिएको छैन । बिडम्बना यो पनि हो ।

अर्को पक्ष भनेको हामी बौद्धिक बिश्लेशन गर्नमा सधैं चुकेका छौ । राज्यको अवस्था के-कस्तो अवस्थामा गुज्रिरहेको छ र हामीलाई राज्यले के-कसरी शोषित गरिरहेका छन् त्यसको पर्याप्त ज्ञान छैन । भन्नुको तात्पर्य हामीमा राजनीतिक चेतनाको खाचो अझै खड्किएको छ । अझै पनि हामी तामाङ हरुलाई जाडरक्सी खाने भोटे जाती भनेर नाम भिरिरहेकै अवस्था छ । यी समस्याहरुबाट जबसम्म हामी बाहिर निस्कन्नौ तबसम्म सम्पूर्ण समुदायको बिकास हुन नै सक्दैन ।

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on August 10, 2010 at 7:35pm
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nirupam tamang (singdan) जि यहाँलाई पनि बिशेष धन्यवाद महत्वपूर्ण बिचार राखिदिनुभएकोमा । पक्कै पनि तपाईंले उठाउनुभएको सवालहरु मननिय छन् । "जातैले पाएको खानुपर्छ जाड रक्सी त" भन्ने सोच अझै पनि हामी तामाङहरुमा जिउदो संस्क्रिती झै खडा भएकै छ । जुन चिजले हामीलाई घाटा शिवाय केही दिन सक्दैन त्यसलाई हामीले सस्कारको रुपमा बिकास गर्नुभन्दा चटक्कै छाड्ने प्रयास गर्नु जरुरी छ ।

अर्को "हाम्रो बल आफ्नै हित बिपरित प्रयोग भएको कुरा" । सड्यन्त्रकारीहरुले अनेक धाउ खोजिरहेका हुन्छन् कि के कसरी सत्रुको नाश गर्न सकिन्छ भनेर । त्यही स्वरुप हामी आँफैलाई जुधाइरहेका छन् ।

Reply by sojo Ale(moktan) on August 12, 2010 at 2:39am
namaskar daju.
malai lagcha!!!!!!
We tamang are backward in all sectors due to poverty and lack of education n lack of opportunit.
mane kura chai yo nai ho . ane nepal ma jasko sarkar 6 . tesko nai jati ko manche sarkari office haru ma huncha.
jata bata pane thula office haru ma arukai manche vayako le man niras huncha ra astai raicha hamro tamang jati ko jindge vandai afnu kam tera lag6.
ane ahele jata pane hernus tamang jati chora ,chori naramro kulat ma bade dekhen cha.
coz !!! sabai thula kamauna lagchan.
No bady to care to there child mero matlab paisa kamucha tara chora chori kasto bato ma cha did't care.
malai lagcha tyo pane auta kamjor cha hamro jati ma .
Lastly sarai sajo chu ho hame tamang jati.......
ahele ko 21th sabtbima sojo pan le bachna garo huncha.... hoina dajuuuuuuuu ????????

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xiten ThokarPermalink Reply by xiten Thokar on August 12, 2010 at 4:08pm
i agree wid sushma ,we are left behind coz of lack of education and poverty..but in de present condition ,we are also civilized...there are some people to be cared,in dat condition we shud help them to grow up and compete wid de other casts in all de sectors...by nature we are always helpful and known for de bravery from our forefathers,so lets help them in a best way we can.lets put our hands together .

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on August 13, 2010 at 2:32pm
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लासो फ्याफुल्ला अनि थुजेछे sojo Ale(moktan) ह्राङ्ला ल्हेङमो थान्स्युबाला लागिरी । आलेको कुरामा पक्कै पनि मेरो सहमत कि हामी तामाङहरु पछी पर्नुको कारण गरीबी र शिक्षाको कमी । यी दुई समस्याहरुबाट हामीले आफुलाई टाढा राख्ने हो भने धेरै मात्रमा हामीले तामाङ समाजमा रहेको समस्याहरुको न्युनिकरन गर्न सकिन्थ्यौ ।

जब हामीमा क्षमता नै नभएपछी अरुसँग प्रतिस्पर्धामा उत्रिन सकिन्नौ जसले गर्दा चाहेको जस्तो बिकास सम्भव छैन । अर्कोतिर क्षमता भएकाहरुलाई यहाँ ठाउँ छैन, जसले गर्दा प्रतिभालाई सडाउनुपर्ने बाध्यता छ । पक्कै पनि हामी सोझा छौ लप्पनछप्पन जाँन्दैनौ र त्यही सोझोपनको फाईदा भने अरुले उठाएको छ । थुजेछे फेरी पनि महत्वपूर्ण बिचार राख्नु भएकोमा ........

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on August 13, 2010 at 2:37pm
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Thank you so much xiten thokar ji for your views. We always should respect to our forefathers' bravery and their excellent deeds.

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on August 22, 2010 at 9:21am
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एस् लामा मोक्तान जि,
लासो फ्याफुल्ला अनि थुजेछे तपाईंको भावना अनि बिचारको लागि । मैले पनि तपाईंको बिचारमा अली फरकपन देखे अरु साथीहरुको तर्कको दाजोमा । केही भनिएका कुराहरुलाई अझ स्पस्ट पारीदिनु भो, केही नभनिएका कुराहरु उल्लेख गर्नु भो । बिशेष आभार ।

तपाईंले उठाउनुभएको मुद्धाहरु वास्तवमै सोचनिय छन् । आज एक्काइसौ शताब्दिको दिनमा पनि हामी पछी नै परिरहेका छौ । के कस्ता कारणहरु रहेछन् त पछी पर्नुको, ती कारणहरु पनि साथीहरुको केही छिनको छलफलबाट जान्ने मौका पाइयो ।

तपाईंले उल्लेख गर्नुभएको तीन महत्वपूर्ण बुदाहरु बास्तबमै महत्वपूर्ण लाग्यो । त्यसै सम्बन्धित भनाइहरुमा केही थप्न मन लाग्यो ।
१)धर्मको नाममा खोजिरहेको अस्तित्व:
हामी तामाङहरु आफुलाई बुद्ध वा बुद्ध धर्मको अनुयायी मान्छौ । तर पछिल्लो समयमा आएर कोही बुद्ध धर्मप्रती आस्था राख्ने, कोही क्रिस्चियन धर्मप्रती झुकाव राख्ने त कोही हिन्दू धर्मप्रती । हामी तीन तिरको धुरमुरे पारामा हामीलाई प्रस्तुत गरिरहेका छौ । हाम्रा रितिस्थितिलाई हेर्ने हो भने हामी आदी बुद्ध धर्मको अनुयायी र आदी हिन्दू धर्मको अनुयायी छौ । भन्नाले हामी सम्पूर्ण रुपमा न त बुद्ध धर्म-सस्कारलाई अपनाउन सक्छौ न त बुद्ध धर्मको नै । हाम्रो चालचलन हिन्दू धर्मसँग बढी झुकाव भएको हो कि पो महसुस गर्छु म त ।

२)भासा-जातीको लागि संघर्सका आवाजहरु उठाउनु:
अहिले आएर चेतनाको स्तर केही ब्रिद्धी भएको जस्तो लाग्छ मलाई । आफ्नो अधिकारको लागि केही सचेत भएको हो कि भनेर पनि यो सङ्केत देखाको जस्तो पनि लाग्छ । जुन रुपमा हाम्रो भाषा सँस्क्रिति र परम्परा थियो, अनि त्यसलाई हिन्दूकरन गर्न खोजियो र लादियो पनि त्यसको बिरुद्धमा चेतनाको लहर आउनु जरुरी छ । हामी मात्र भर्‍याङ बनियो कसैको लागि तर भर्र्याङ् चढेर फाईदा लुट्नेहरु अर्कै परे । त्यसैले हाम्रो स्थिती जस्ताको तस्तै यसलाई भनु, अ-प्रगतिशिल हाम्रो समाज । जुन रुपमा हामी बलिस्ठ छौ तर त्यो बलिस्ठताको फाईदा लुट्ने अरु कोही ........

३)अझै पनि रुढीबादी सस्कारको अनुयायी:
हामीले परिवर्तन गर्नै पर्ने केही कुराहरुलाई अझै निरन्तरता दिनु पनि हाम्रो पछ्यौटेपनको एक उदाहरण हुन् । हामीलाई अरुको दाजोमा उभ्याउन नसक्नु, आँफैमा स्पस्टता नहुनु र आँफै प्रति आत्मबिश्वास जगाउन नसक्नु । हामी भनेको कुराहरुलाई आँखा चिम्लेर विश्वाश गर्छौ र नयाँ कुराको लागि आफुलाई प्रस्तुत गर्न रुचाउन्नौ । केही परिवर्तन चाहन्छौ तर हाम्रो चालढाल भने उही पुरानै सस्कार-संस्कृतिको ।

Reply by pritam rumba on September 10, 2010 at 8:35pm
due to uneducated and driniking habit...............

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lopchan bijay tamangPermalink Reply by lopchan bijay tamang on September 10, 2010 at 8:54pm
mero bichar ma hami pacfhi hunu ko mukhya karan hamro daju bhai ma aafu mathi biswas nahunu hola ra yesko karan bhane pakka pani asikchit bhayera hola aaj tamang samajh ka daju bhai tatha di di baini haru agadsi badi sakeko cha tara tehi puarano kura lai samjhera aafulai ajhai pani pachadi rakhchan herda ta malai lagcha hami aafai afulai kamjor banai raheko chau naki kasaile

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on September 10, 2010 at 9:05pm
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प्रितम जि,
तपाईंको बिचारको लागि धेरैधेरै धन्यवाद ।

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on September 10, 2010 at 9:10pm
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लोप्चन बिजय जि,
धेरैधेरै धन्यवाद तपाईंको बिचारको लागि । केही बिगतका कुराहरुबाट पाठ सिक्दै आगामी दिनको लागि त्यही गल्ती दोहोरिन नदिदै हामी अगाडि बढ्नुपर्ने टड्कारो आबश्यक देख्छु मैले पनि ।

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lopchan bijay tamangPermalink Reply by lopchan bijay tamang on September 10, 2010 at 9:15pm
ho daji tapai ko kura pani sahi ho ra hami pani kehi garau bhani agadi baddai chau please mero page hernu ra mero last post blog hernu ani bhannu k mero soch galat cha???? wa ke kasto lagcha plz comment garnu ra saknu huncha bhane help pani garnu hola kina ki tamang basti ko barema hamilai jatti tha cha tyo bhanda dherai gunha hajur harulai tha cha

dhanya badh
लोप्चन बिजय तामाङ

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on September 11, 2010 at 9:34am
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तामाङ लोप्चन बिजय जि,
फेरी पनि बिशेष धन्यवाद । तामाङ हितको बारेमा चिन्तन गर्ने र आफु तामाङ हुनुमा गर्ब गर्न सक्नेहरुबाट नै हामीले वास्तविक तामाङहरुको हितको लागि सुनौलो कामको थालनि गर्न सक्छौ । हो हामी बिच केही साझा सवाल र मुद्धाहरुमा फरक बिचार होला, यो अस्वाभाबिक प्रकृया पनि होइन । तर पनि तामाङ हित गर्ने सवालमा भने हाम्रो मिसन र भिजन एउटै हुनुपर्छ भन्ने मेरो मान्यता । पक्कै पनि यहाँको अन्तिम भनिएको बिचार पढेर केही आफ्नो कुरा राख्नेछु ।

Reply by Panchaman pakhrin Tamang on September 17, 2010 at 12:27pm
LHASSO DARSHAN G PHAYFULLA SABAI KO COMMENS PADDAI JHANDA HAJURLE INDIA BATA PANI HAMI TAMANGKO NATALE 2/4 DHABDA KAREKOMA THANKS LOT ANI HAJURKO KURA RIGHT HO INDIA MA DARJELING OR SIKKIM MA TAMANG RAMRAI CHHA YO EDUCATIOLE GARDA HO RA INDA JABA BRITISHLE RULE GARE DARJELING LAI FATHER HARULE CLIMATE AND VAERIOUS SENSE LE HERDA THAU RAMRO LAGEW RA TAHA EDUACATION BASE BASAYO RA SABAILE RAMRO AWASHAR PAYO PANI TARA YEUTA KURA CHAHI TAPAIHARULE KATA KATA BHULEKO BIRSEKO YA LOP AND PADAI KO CHANCE LAI LINU PARCDA MAY BE DHARMA MA ALI PARIBARTAN BHAYAKO JASTO LAGEW ANI JAGIR KO LAGI TA HAJUR HARU LAI INDIA KO PASSPORT USE GARERA BHANDA NEPALI PASSPORT NAI DHERAI USEFUL BHAYAKO CHHA YO PANI TEJAKO LAGI JAGIRMA MAY BE WEST BENGAL KO UNDERMA BASNU PARDA JAGIRMA DHEARI BANGALI MITRA HARULE NAI PAIRAHEKO CHHA HOPE CHADAI HAJURHARU KO STATE GOVERMENT HOS HILLS SIDE KO TAMANGLE NAI SAKARKO COMMAND HOS BHANNE CHAHANCHHU RA TEHAKO KHOJ ANUSHANDHAN HAMILAI PANI SHARE GARNE CHHA BHANNE ASHA CHAH THANKS

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Lo Khil TamangPermalink Reply by Lo Khil Tamang on September 22, 2010 at 9:23pm
Lasso jyo jyo Fyafulla! Sarba pratham ta Tapaile Yo topic discussion ma rakhera Prasna garnu bhayo tesko lagi THUCHECHHE!!! Huna ta ma bhanda dherai bujhne sathi harule dherai tarka rakhi saknu bbhayako 6. Mero bicharma Hami tamang haru pachhi parnuko karan 104 barshe Rana Sashan Bata nai Suruwat bhayako ho. Tes bela hamra purkha harule Tamang bhanera Garbha garna pani paudaina thiyo jhan aru kuraharu tadha nai rakhaun.
Nepali Ukkhan nai 6 Agulto le haneko kukur Bijuli chamkada tarsinchha bhane jhain Aja samma pani Tarsi raheko chhaun Kina ki Na ta 2007 salko Prajatantrale diyo, na ta 30 barse Panchayat le diyo mathi uthne khudkilo.
Mero bicharma Hamilai Purba SHASAK harule Shasit banayako thiyo yahi ho Tamang pachhi pareko.
Hami sabailai thaha 6 ki kunai pani Biu chhare pachhi Umrana Samaya lag6, Umre pa6i Badhna Samaya lag6, Badhe pachhi ful fulchha ani ball PHAL (friut) dinchha. Ho testai bhayako 6 Hami Tamang Balla Badhdai 6 ki jasto lagchha. Biruwa lai Godmel, Mal jal nagari Badhdaina ho testai yo bela bhaneko Shiksha, Diksha, Janachetana, ra shahas Jos Jangar Jasto Mal Jal dinu parne belachha ................. Lasso!!!!!!

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on September 23, 2010 at 8:23am
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Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on September 23, 2010 at 8:50am
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लो खिल तामाङ आले,,
लासो आले फ्याफुल्ला अनि थुजेछे पनि आफ्नो महत्वपूर्ण बिचारहरुलाई राखिदिनुभएकोमा । पक्कै पनि हामी साथीहरुले यसबारेमा बिभिन्न चरानमा बिभिन्न बहस-छलफल चलायौ । साथीहरुबाट आएका महत्वपूर्ण बिचारहरुको लागि हृदयबाट नै आभार ब्यक्त गर्न चाहन्छु ।

राणाशासनकालको उदयसँगै तामाङमाथि परेको थिचोमिचो:
हामी तामाङहरुले प्रगती गर्नै चाहदैनन् र सक्दैनन् भनेर भन्नु मुर्खता हो । हामीमा जोश छ जागर छ तर यसको उचित सम्मान दिने कुनै ठाउँ छैन । जसले गर्दा हामीमा भएको इच्छाशक्ती ह्रास हुने अवस्थामा निरन्तरनिरन्तर दौडिदै छ । राणा शशनकालमा पनि त्यस्तै भयो, न त हामीलाई त्यस किसिमको स्वतन्त्रता थियो न त हामीमा प्रगती गर्ने द्रिढ शक्ती नै थियो । त्यसमाथि नेपाल एकीकरनको नाममा हाम्रा स्वतन्त्र राज्यहरु खोसियो, हाम्रो बिभिन्न धार्मीक ग्रन्थहरु सांस्कृतिक पक्ष समेटिएको पुस्तकहरु जलाइयो । त्यसैले हाम्रो ईतिहासका कुराहरु खोज्न हामीलाई निकै गाह्रो भएको छ ।

हामी तामाङ जाती भएकै कारनले ब्रिटिश पल्टनमा जागिर खान पाइन्न थियो । त्यसैले हाम्रा पुर्खाहरुले आफ्नो जात वा थर नै परिवर्तन गरी(गुरुङ, राइ लिम्बु वा अन्य) ब्रिटिश लाहुरेमा छिरेको ईतिहास छ । यस कारनले पनि हामी तामाङहरुको यकिन तथ्याङ्क छैन कि के कत्ती जनसङ्ख्या छ हाम्रो भनेर । किन भने हाम्रा पुर्खाले यस्तो गरेकोले उनिहरुको सन्तानहरुको पनि तामाङहरुको थर नभै अन्य थर रहन गयो ।

चाडबाडको सन्दर्भमा:
नेपाल बुद्धले जन्म लिएको पवित्र थलो, तर यसलाई "एक मात्र हिन्दू राष्ट्र"को पगरी गुथाइयो । यो एक दुर्भाग्यको कुरा हो किनभने जुन देशमा बुद्ध जन्मियो त्यही ठाउमा बुद्धको कुनै अस्तित्वको महत्व रहन्न भने के अर्थ रह्यो र ? अरु राष्ट्रहरुमा बरु हामिले भन्दा बुद्धको ज्ञान पाठको राम्रो अध्ययन गर्छन्, बुद्धले दिएको उपदेशको अनुसरण गर्छन् । तर हाम्रै देशमा यस्तो गरिन्न । हामीले आफ्नै देशमा मुर्ख्याइपन देखाइरहेका छौ जस्तो लाग्छ ।

पृथ्वीनारायण शाहले नेपाल एकिकरन पश्चात सम्पूर्ण आदिबासी जनजातिहरुको अधिकार आफ्नो हातमा लिईयो । नमान्नेहरुलाई हदै सम्मको सजाय पनि दिईयो । दसैं-तिहार हिन्दू सस्कार अन्तर्गतको पर्ब मानिन्छ, तर तामाङहरुको आफ्नै छुट्टै धर्मसँस्क्रिती हुँदाहुँदै पनि दसैं तिहार मान्नै पर्ने वाध्य बनाइयो ।

एउटा कुरा के छ भने, यदी तपाईं तामाङहरुको पुरानो घरमा जानुभो भने भित्तामा हातको रातो कलरको छाप हेर्न सक्नुहुन्छ । के रहेछ भन्ने जिज्ञासामा केही थप्न चाहन्छु । हामी तामाङहरुले दसैं-तिहारको बहिस्कारनको लागि आवाज उठाइएको रहेछ । तर नेपाल एकिकरन पछी हामी तामाङहरुले चलाएको स-सना स्वततन्त्र राज्यहरु(तामाङ राजाहरुको बारेको अध्ययनबाट सभार)मा आफ्नै खाले ब्यबस्था लादन थालियो । दसैं तिहारमा बली चढाउनै पर्ने, यदी त्यसो नगरे देशै निकाला गरिदिने वाध्यता थियो । त्यसैले हाम्रा बाउ-बाजेहरुले पशुको बली चढाएर हातमा रक्ती(रगत)लगाउदै भित्तामा १० औलाको छाप पर्ने गरी राख्ने गरेको पाईन्छ । यो दसैं-तिहार मनाउने वाध्यकारी अवस्था थियो तामाङहरुमा । यदी कुनै घरमा यस्तो किसिमको छाप वा चिन्न नभए हदैसम्मको सजाय दिने ब्यबस्था रहेछ ।

यसर्थमा दसैं तिहार हामिले स्वतन्त्रपुर्बक मानिएको चाडपर्ब नभएर हामीलाई वाध्य बनाई मनाउन लागिएको चाड हो । जसको प्रभाव अझै पनि हामी तामाङहरुले दसैं-तिहार मान्ने परम्पराबाट स्पस्ट हुन्छ ।

बिभेदपूर्ण व्यबहार:
अहिले पनि तपाईंले सरकारी र कुनै पनि ठुलो पदमा तामाङहरुको सङ्ख्या न्युन देख्नुहुन्छ । के कारनले भनेर जान्न खोज्नु भो भने बिभेदपूर्ण व्यबहार नै मुख्य समस्या भएर आउछन । सक्षमताको प्रदर्शन गर्न नपाउदा हाम्रा सिपहरु त्यसैत्यसै फिक्का हुँदै खिएएर गएका छन् । त्यसैले पनि तामाङ र तामाङ समाजको हित अझै पूर्ण रुपमा हुन सकेको छैन ।

Reply by dolma waiba on September 23, 2010 at 7:56pm
yes according to my understanding, 30-40 yrs ago we r limited to our village with few facilities which includes education too.however now we have spread ourselves all over the world.thus, in present context, it cant be said that we r backward since this new generation is trying to bring themselves up front. in regards to the generation before us, i agree they r backwards due to the conservative minds of our grand parents. however , our parents have realized that they need to reared their children in a completely different environment as a result of their conscience, here we go most of us are educated atleast to some extend and some of them are trying to climb another steps . our generation have a different perspective towards new world. in addition, yes we all have to support each other in the time of needs and participate in ones happiness. holding each other hand in peace, we need to step forwards and have to prove ourselves to the world as a whole tamang community that we r not backwards anymore and we can do what other people can do . lets puts our hands together n say we r not backwards no no no...........................

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Lo Khil TamangPermalink Reply by Lo Khil Tamang on September 24, 2010 at 8:00pm
Lasso Manik jyo jyo dosin fyafulla!!! Tapaik yo mahatwa purna yo jankari lai Pheri pani THUCHECHHE!!! nadie rahana sakdina. Tapaiko yo jankarile tamang haru lai kasle daman, thichomicho ra bhedvab gareko rahechha bhanne ajha dherai jankari paya tesaile malai tapai prati garva chha.
Rana kal ko thichomicho le hamro Janasankhya ghatayara hamro purkhale Aafno jati ra thar samet phernu paryo, Shaha kal ma Rajya akikaranko nam ma Hamro Tamang rajya sangai Tamang bhasha, culture ra history gumaunu paryo. jabarjasti Arkako dharma mannu paryo bhane aja yo 21th satabdi ma aaipugera pani bivedpurna byabahar khepnu pari raheko chha. Yo kasto Bidambana ho gahiriyara sochnu bhanda pani yasto byabahar harulai chhito bhanda chhito kasari hatauna sakinchha bhanne nikash ko bato ma agadi badhnu parchha. yasko nimti hami Tamangharu yak huna jaruri dekhinchha.
yadi hami ahile dekhi yak bhayara afno hak adhikar lagi ladena bhane tamang haru ko Utthan ajhai pani para chha.........!
Tesaile Sampurna tamang daju Bhaiharu sathai Didi bahini haru Aajai dekhi suru garaun gaun Gaun dekhi Shahar Shahar dekhi ti bigat ka dukha pida haruko biruddha Sangharsha Garaun liun Badala ti shasak harulai.......! Hamro Purkha haru Ragatko.. YASAI TAMANGCHAUTARI MARPHAT BHANNA CHAHANCHHU.
Dai ma tapai bata ajhai yastai tamang haruko bisaya ma dherai jankari lina chanchhu yasai chautari bata! ................. Thuchechhe!

Reply by yonzon Lama on September 29, 2010 at 1:31am
Phyafulla Sushma Lama.
You are right what ever you have mentioned it those are all true. We Tamangs are very smart to blame for some one but we don't try to do it,as you said we need to be educated and we should have a feeling of helping to each other and another thing that we need to change one thing though it is our tradition.
We are authorized to drink any alcohol even in very young age which shouldn't be allowed at all ,I think it destroys the brain while it is in the age of growing our DHIMAK.
Manik Ji le question ta rakhnu bho , yo ta USA ma ki na female President na ba ko bane jastai lagyo. We are living here in usa and we know there no discrimination between male and female and freedom is given for all and opportunitys are given for all as well and they don't care how you look like but still keti ta USA ma President ba ko nai chai na ni ho tes tai lagyo malai ta.

Yonzon
USA

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Chandik Lal Ghising TamangPermalink Reply by Chandik Lal Ghising Tamang on October 1, 2010 at 9:42am
सम्पूर्ण साथीहरुको बिचारहरु पढ्न पाए अत्यन्तै खुशी लाग्यो । धेरै कुराहरु पनि जान्ने मौका पाए । हामीलाई अझै पनि पछि परेको जात भनेर पगरी गुथाइरहेका छौ आँफैले आँफैलाई । २१ औ सताब्दिमा पनि हामी किन यसरी पछि परिरहेका छौ त भन्ने बिषयमा यहाँहरुले दिनुभएको तर्कहरुलाई नियाले । त्यसमा मैले जानेको र बुझेको तामाङहरु पछि पर्नुको कारनहरुलाई बुदागत रुपमा यसरी प्रस्तुत गर्न चाहन्छु ।
१)शिक्षाको कमी
२)अझै पनि पक्षउटेपन देखाउने प्रबित्ती
३)असमान व्यबहार
४)धनी र गरीब बिचको असमानता
५)अबुझपनको सिकार
६)बैचारिक कुरामा भन्दा पनि मनोरन्जन तिरको ध्यान ज्यादा
७)आफ्नै जाती भाषा सम्बन्धी गर्ब महसुस नगर्नु
८)खुट्टा तान्ने प्रबित्ती
९)आफ्नो सस्कार छोडेर अरुको अबलम्बन गर्न रुचाउनु
१०)राज्यको मुलधारमा एकल जातियको बर्चस्व
११)राजनितिक चेतनाको कमि

यदी यी माथि बुदागत रुपमा उल्लेखित कुराहरुलाई हामीले आत्मसात गर्दै अगाडि जान सक्यौ भने बास्तबमै हामीले आफुलाई पछि परेको जातको पगरी गुथाइराख्नु नपर्ला ............

Reply by Embee Ghising on October 6, 2010 at 5:37pm
We r in the mission now.... One day we'll prove that we too have capacity,ability to do something gud. Doesn't matter whether we were backward or we are..but if we don't make some drastic change in ourselves that matters. So, we should never think we r backward and we r not capable enough to do this n that. We have to keep positive approach and should move forward accordingly. Only the positive approach can make positive changes. Whatever hindrances come on our way, we have to solve them ourselves. Bcz problems and solution to the problems makes us sharp. In one sentence we r not backward...but our negative thinkin' make us backward so we have to change our vision, we have to be focused towards our destination. Focus always brings destination nearer. For moving more forward the people whoever r in the higher position or who all r well educated they have to contribute for the social (tamang) reformation...only then changes will take place...out of hundred candles at least 75 candles should be lighted up so the rest will automatically be enlightened..
thanx..........

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Embee GhisingPermalink Reply by Embee Ghising on October 6, 2010 at 5:39pm
Chandik ji,,,exactly ................u r absolutely to the point.....

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Panchaman pakhrin TamangPermalink Reply by Panchaman pakhrin Tamang on October 6, 2010 at 6:01pm
Lhasso Emee G phayfulla and thanks for positive think and positive response and you are telling one day will change drastically its sure but its take time you know we are Tamang if you are telling one good job its 100% favour of community but our Tamang team will criticise may its take time to go forward . do you have like this experience any time at your village ? Really i have lots of like this thing to convince if old people are there more time to take change and if educated people are there litle bit less time to understand but stilll they are doing theire arguments as previous dirts to removed . WE know we are in 21 century we are all are runnning not only Tamang so we need more help from the goverment to devloped our sector booming our educatin like a quta for doctor engiuneer pilots etc its so expensice things for poor people even if he or she is tallent can not study so we most shout for this samabeshi with as per population density thnks .

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Embee GhisingPermalink Reply by Embee Ghising on October 10, 2010 at 1:57am
Of course i have had these kinds of experiences. That is the main hindrances which doesn't let us go forward. We all should have positive thinkin'. Whoever r in gud or higher position it is not only their duty to contribute to the society but the society also has to make him stronger in his position so that he would be able to help accordin' to our needs. Of course if we see somebody doing gud we start criticizing about him which is the worst part of our community and bcz of that we will be suffered indirectly. Let's stop doing these kind of things from today itself and start heading forward in positive ways.

Reply by Panchaman pakhrin Tamang on October 10, 2010 at 8:38am
Lhasso Emmy G and thanks for sharing for discus we most be strong suppport to our leadre and our leader also not to be change like a previous leader for example Gore Bdr Ghapangi magar , Kajiman kandanba . before days those guys was a hero for SETAMAGURALI but now no any sign seen around this community because mr gyanedra and Birendra bought in milion . Now iam rarly having come to know about Mr Parshuram Tamang also change his way but iam not sure. this type of message spread in the market so bit a dought . we do not want so its realy painful game for community . thanks and wishing you all the best

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Udaya Bahadur LamaPermalink Reply by Udaya Bahadur Lama on October 26, 2010 at 7:57am
dannebad hai panchaman ji tapaiko janajati netaharupratiko b4 pani padna paye khusi lagyo yo bahasma.tapai poltically awarenes vayeko man6e rahe6 yeti bujepani kina chup lagera basnu hun6 vag pani linos na poltical game ma ani po tamang ko pa6adi pariyeka rt haru pau6an ta.hamra pahilaka janajatika netaharule sakenan poltically rt lina tamang samajma sichako kami ani tiniharuko bibit bektigat problem le garda.tiniharule 6ode vandaima k hamro generation le ta kehi nagarne ta?twalla herera matra ta kehi hunewala 6na ni ho hoina ra panchaman ji?46 salko andolan pa6i tamang harule pani dherai bujne r padne mauka payeka 6n but politics ma kohi pani tamang haru new generation ma product huna sakena tesaile tamang ko halat yestai ho.jatipani ahileka tmang gigure haru 46 sal agadiko ho so panchaman ji agadi badnos new generation ko tarfa bata ani arulai pani badaunos policics ma.manik samdi tamanglai pa6adi pareko ho vanera sodne jabana hoina aba ta hamilai pa6adi prekai ho itihas sanchi 6 tesaile agadi badnu par6 badu vannos.yo policics bata matra samvav 6 tesaile manik samdi rajniti garna thalihalnos hai polics ma dherai divort chahin6 ani panchaman ji jasto man6elai nachhodnos sangai hidauna.sabai tamang le rajniti garnu par6 yedi afno pahichan r rt paunako lagi maya 6 vane .danne bad sabailai.

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Panchaman pakhrin TamangPermalink Reply by Panchaman pakhrin Tamang on October 26, 2010 at 8:38am
Lhassso Uddya G phayfulla and namaste yahale kasta gari Tamanag chautarilo ganthan padera sujhab diyako ma really thanks lots from my heart now a days ma ali hectic feel and not feeling well so many sathi haruko comments paddai matra chhu lekhne jhangar low bhayara wishh samma garna sakina so sorry for that ani Udaya G ko suggestion ramro ho hernus hami agadi jhanalai aba ko dinma rappid action and all tamang le yekdam sonchne bela chha paisama bikne 1 karod ko neta chahine baru afno life sacrifice garne hunu parchha ma ta khali leaderlai support garna sakchhu awraness and mero familly vilageko normal train garna sakinchha . at the end ma thanks bhana chahanchu Roshan G udaya G Manik G Dal bdr G Ramlal Emmy G or many many who are in online and ladies haruko lagi welcome bhanna chahanchhu cheli harule ali political ma low profiel dkehayakoma really pain my heart make them encourage more thanks

Reply by Udaya Bahadur Lama on October 26, 2010 at 9:10am
danne bad hai panchaman ji.tamangko yehi ta ho ni samasya phile ta bujaunai garho tespa6i bujekaharu karyenoyen garnai agdi badnai mandainan ani lagekaharu paisama big6n kina ki usle politics ma ecomic manage garna janeko hudaina r sakidaina pani.politics ma paisa pani chahin6 ani vayera pani manage garna jannu par6 natra last ma khatam par6n netaharule pralovanma lagera.yes panchaman ji mahila haru ta tamang ko jha zero nai 6n politics ma.khoi kasari agadi badne hun.jatiye organization ma lageko ali ali tamang mahilaharu pani bihe garepa6i jhanai palayen hune gar6n.padelekhekao ta halat yesto 6 vane napadneko jhan k vannu.tesaile panchaman ji tapaiko health le sath nadiye afno sorounding lai active banaunos tehi thulo kura hune6 tamang samaj ko lagi.baudik palayen hunu vayena hao panchaman ji sas vainjel samma lekhna bolna na6odnos gore bahadur r parsuram jastale gati 6adyo vandaima.tiniharuko palama vanda hamro palama realy tapaile vane jastai rapidle chnge lyaunu par6 but tc ko board member le pani ali yo bujailai prathamikta diyena jasto lag6 so panchaman ji tapaiko kalale vyayesamm ghachgahcunos ta tc lai yo online basis vayekole msg dherai thauma pugne6.

Reply by gyabak tamang on October 27, 2010 at 7:59pm
laso fyafulla
Bastabma tapai le yo tamang chautarima uthaunu parne bilkul sandarvic prasna rakhnu vako chha yo prasnako utar khojna aja harek tamang daju vai tatha didi bahiniko ko kartabya hunchha,Prashnako lai bahasma lyaunu vayekoma dhanyabad tapailai ra mero tarpha bata vanda ''''''''''''''+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++++Tamang Nepal ka orginal or indigeneou mongol people ho tini haruko utpani yahi vayeko ho vanne praman lamako pustak ma guru rimpochheko Bhutan to tibat yatrako barema pani yo tamang samudayako barema ullekh gareko chha budhigibi sathiharule khoji khoji padnu hola" ra yo tamang samudaya prachin samudaya ho vanne orko praman puratatuik bid harule kathmanduko budanilkantha nagik fela pareko dhunge hatiyar bata pani thaha pauna sakinchha ki Tamang haru prachin manab ho .yee tamang haruko develop hune kram ma yeniharule hal tamsaling vanine 9 wata jilla district vitra dherai gana rajya thiyo. Yeeni haru akapasma milera rajya chalauthe samaya bidai jada varat bata mugol rajako lakhetaima pareka bartama bahun chhetriko purkha jo rachhesh demon thiyo tini harule hamra vagawan jasta soja purkha haruko ganarjya Nepal akikaranko namma tamangko purkha lai marera tiniharule akikaran gare .Samaya bitai jada tamang harule bich bichma ladai nagareko haina tara ti rakshesh chetri bahun le hamro vash dharma ritiriwaj, hak adhikar sabainai lutyo jastai nepal budhist country huna parnema ..........Hindu country ......vayo . Nepal ko sarkari officema sabai chhetri bahun matra rakhe ...tamangharulai ..........pipa goswara .............vanda thulo post kahile pani dinu hudaina vanera barjit gare..............Formal education art hat aupacharic siksha ma Matrai..........Napali vasa ra hindu cultureko barema matra bisaya bastu padauna thaliyo ......tamang vasako kunai pani chhance chhaina .........Jastai ramayanko katha ramko katha .........krishnako katha padauna thaliyo schoolma. yesai gari .chad parbama hinduharuko mahan chad vanera Dashain matra rastriya parbako rupma manauna thale Tamang ko lochhar khalliballi vo dashain namanne ra lhochhar manne tamang harulai ........Desh nikala gare sayau tamang lai katera mare Dashain lai bahun ra chhetrile jabarjasti manna lagaye jasko karan ahile hamro tamang daju vai ra didi bahini le ramailo sanga manna thaleko chha samjhyo vane yo dahain hamro chad parba ho mannu parchha vandai khasi ra kukhurako sapra tanchhan red lebal sanga .ti gokpa tamang harulai thaha chaina tamangharuko purkha harulai marera yo dashain maneko ho vanera ..............feri chetri bahun chahi halka sanga tika matra lagayera harka badai garchha ra tiniharuko parba manauchan...............;yasai gari Tamang ko chhora chorile Master Degree nai gare pani Nepalko bahun ra chetrile sarkari padma mare pani lok shewa ayog ma pass nai garaudaina yo uni haruko policy ho hami bujhchau yasta kura ultai vanchha Qualified chhaina vanera vannu pardha kun chahi bahun ra chhetriko qualified chhorale chahi desh ko bikas gareko chha ultai vrastachar garera deshko dhukuti rityayeko chha .yashri Padnu lekhnu pani apthyaro babanayeko chha tamang ko chhora chori lai ..........dukha sukha pade pani uniharulai deshma kunai mauka chaina Deshko Neta , Daka .chorko sardar tinai bahunko chhora ............ sarkari karyalayama bahunko kobachha..........Business udhyo dhandama sabai tiniharule ogateko chha Tamangko chhora le kehi garna khojyo ki jal ........jhel.....marpit ...garera ..kehi garnai didainan ...........Dalalka sardar tiniharunai chhan .........Bambaima keti bechneko Naike pani bahun chhetri ,..........tara bambai samma rojgarima puraunu jane tamang ko chhora hunchha cheli bechne ...........aba hernus Nepal ma Bahun chhetriko chamatkar ...................

;..........yasari tamangko gana rajya rachhesh bahun chhetri le khose pachhi tini harule Hami tamang harulai harek ..... chhetrama banchit gare yee daya navayeko rakshesh deman bahun chetrile ..............tesaile hami Tamang harulai Nepal ka samanti sosak jali bahun chhetri harule pachadi pareko ho.. antatwo gatwa hami tamang harule pani vabi din haruma bibek purayera yo bahun badi rajya satta ko antya garna parchha yesko lagi sabile gutera voice lai uthaunu parchha.thank you

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Panchaman pakhrin TamangPermalink Reply by Panchaman pakhrin Tamang on October 27, 2010 at 9:37pm
Lhasso gyabak G bujeko ma sarai khusi lagew ajai try garnus dherai bujnako lagi thanks lot ans wishing you all the best

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Embee GhisingPermalink Reply by Embee Ghising on October 28, 2010 at 1:56pm
ekdam sandarvik 6 tapaiko bichar gyabak tamang g.........\
mero bhanai pani yahi nai ho........dashain ko barema tapaile dinu bhayeko tarka ra mero tarka ekdam mildo juldo 6. maile pani yaha tamang chautari ko through bata sathi harulai yahi bhandai aayeko 6u. Tara yaha chautariko sathiharuko discussion herda kheri yasto lag6 ki hami pa6adi parnuma hami harukai thulo galti 6. kinaki sathi haru yaha kunai kunai bisayama yasari tarka gardai6an ki (mama chela phupu chela ko bisayama) sayad uniharu aamune samunne bhayeko bhaye kuta kut nai chalthyo hola. uniharule aafno tarka ma prayog gareko sabda haru herda yastai aavas hun6. ra yo tarka matra nabhayera mero aafnai yastai kisimko bhogai pani 6.. mero gaukai kura ho .....hamile pani tamang samaj ko lagi kehi ta garnai par6 bhanera euta tamang sewa samaj bhanera union sthapana gareka thiyau. tara dinharu bitdai janda ekpalta ko meeting kai kram ma.....ho..jaba dashain manne ki namanne bhanne kura niklyo..........yasai maukama kati sathi harule dashain ko barema spastikaran didai dashain bhaneko hamro ghedung le accept garne kura haina yaslai bahiskar garnu par6 bhanda anya sathi harule ghedung nai hami mandainau yadi dashain ghedung le mandaina bhane bhanera tarka garna thale ra achanak tyo union nai bighatan huna pugeko thiyo. aaba bhannus na hami aafu aafu ma ladera faida kaslai hune? yaha pani sathi haru yastai kurama ladi rakheka 6an. jayaj tarka haru ta aabasya garnu par6 tara jhagada garne kisimko tarkako k aartha ho? tyasaile hami aru sanga matlab bahun haruko against ma ladnu bhanda pahile hami aafu ek hune ho ki?

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Panchaman pakhrin TamangPermalink Reply by Panchaman pakhrin Tamang on October 28, 2010 at 3:27pm
lhasso Embee Ghising G kura sandharbik chha hamro tamang ma sabai bhanda thulo rog jastai ho agressive and sahamati ra manan garnu bhanda areko bharma tholo radako machauchha ani arkai le faiuda uthauchha yesari nai hola hamro purkhale afno astito gumeko aba hamile tamang ko rish rag bata ali tala mathai sonchne bela ayako jasto lagchha . Cooling capacity and thinking power and flexibilityko pani uttiaki khancho chha thanks .

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 8, 2010 at 7:09pm
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Dolma Waiba ji,,
Thank you so much again for your nice words of logic comments. I just agree with your views. We just were limited only there to the villages, but it is believed and found a fact on researches that "we tamangs are the actual inhabitants or people of the vallies". We used to be simple and had no habits of cheating others so as to displace by others...

Yes, the present context can be experienced a great deal of changes. Somehow the conservative beliefs are there to bite our society, and definitely lead to the ways of lagging behind than that of others. Considerable changes are seen to the days with courses of time. Still we are not there to the mainstream of country politically. Until and unless, we awared politically a dream of great changes can't be realized in reality.

We have that very capacity to face any difficulties, but somehow our potentials are not completely utilized. Opportunities must be given equally but it is not made in reality. Yea, lets join hands together to say no more backwards…………..

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 8, 2010 at 7:21pm
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लासो फ्याफुल्ला अनि थुजेछे पनि लो खिल आलेलाई पनि ।
केही मैले आँफैले भोगेको अनुभवहरुको आधारमा आफ्नो बिचार प्रस्तुत गरे त केही समाजका अगुवा ब्यक्तिहरुसँगको प्रत्यक्ष-अप्रत्यक्ष छलफलको क्रममा मैले पाएको कुराहरुलाई राखे । हामीले आजको यात्रालाई र भोली हुने यात्राको सही रुपमा तय गर्न ईतिहासका केही चिजहरुलाई पनि नियाल्नुपर्ने हुन्छ । जुन हाम्रो लागि मार्गनिर्देश गर्न-गराउन महत्वपूर्ण भूमिका खेल्नेछ ।

के गर्नु हामीलाई जुन रुपमा ईतिहासमा जबरजस्ती हाम्रो बाहिरको सोच र सस्कारलाई लादन खोजियो, र त्यही अनुसारको हाम्रो अ-स्पस्ट अबलम्बन गर्ने ट्रेन्ड चल्यो । आजको स्थिती आउनुमा बिगतका काला दिनहरुको पनि उत्तिकै भूमिका रहेको कुरालाई नकार्न हामी कदापी सकिन्नौ ।
पक्कै पनि हामीसँग दसैंको replace मा ल्होछार छ, बिभिन्न ङ्ह्या(पुर्णिमाहरु) छन् र अन्य थुप्रै आफ्नै सस्कार-ठिमकाका कुराहरु छन् ।

केही दिन अघी तामाङ युवा समाज (TYS) ले गरेको अन्तर्कृयात्मक कार्यक्रममा मानबशास्त्री डाक्टर मुक्त सिह लामाले आफ्नो भनाइ राख्दै तामाङहरुको मौलिक पहिचानलाई निम्न पाच् बुदामा व्याख्या गर्नुभएको थियो ।
१)तामाङको भुमिसँगको (साइल्हामो) सम्बन्ध:
नेपाल एकिकरनपूर्ब तामाङहरुको आफ्नै छुट्टै स्वायत्त भुमी भएको र भुमी प्रतिको माया आस्था रहेको पाईन्छ । जस्तै अन्न लगाउनु पूर्व र भित्र्याउनु अघी ज्योहो र ज्योमो ल्हामो)को पूजा गर्छन् ।
२)भाषाको सन्दर्भमा:
भाषा एक तामाङलाई चिनाउने माध्यम हो । तामाङहरुको ठाउअनुसार केही भासिकाहरु फरक पाईन्छन तर पनि एक ठाउको तामाङको भाषा बुझ्न सकिन्छ । फरकफरक ठाउमा बसोबास गरेपनी तामाङहरुलाई चिनाउने-एक बनाउने माध्यम भाषा हो । तामाङहरु अरुबाट आएको आगन्तुक शब्दहरुलाई पनि तामाङिकरन गरेर मात्रै बोल्दछन । जस्तो पढ्नु=पढप लाबा/पढ्दिबा ।
३)धर्मको सन्दर्भमा:
तामाङहरु धार्मिक रुपमा दुइटा धर्मबाट प्रभाबित भएको पाईन्छ । "सिमा लामा तोबा सोमा बोन्बो तोबा" अर्थात "मर्दा लामा चाहिने जिउदो छदा बोन्बो चाहिने" उदाहरनबाट पनि स्पस्ट हुन्छ कि तमाङहरु आफ्नो धार्मिक कार्यहरु बौद्ध र बोन धर्मअनुसार गर्छन् ।
४)ह्रुइ प्रथा:
ह्रुइ प्रथा अरु जातिहरुबाट बिलकुल फरक प्रथा हो । जस्तो अरु जातिहरुमा स्वागे भाई पाइन्न । उदाहरणको लागि लो, घलान, घिसिङ फरक फरक थर् भैकन पनि दाजुभाइ-दिदिबहिनी हो । त्यस्तै अन्य सबै थरहरुमा पनि स्वागेभाइ हुने गर्छन ।
५)चाडपर्बको सन्दर्भमा:
तामाङहरुको आफ्नै मौलिक चाडपर्बहरु रहेका छन् । तामाङहरु ङ्ह्या(पुर्णिमाहहरु) लाई बिशेष प्राथमिकताका साथ मनाउने गर्छन् । जस्तो गोनेङ्ह्या-गोसाइकुन्ड जाने, म्हेनिङ ङ्ह्या-ङ्युङने गर्ने जसमा शुभ चिजहरु(मेरिट) कमाउनको लागि ।

हामी आँफैमा सम्पन्न छौ सस्कार सस्कृतिको सवालमा तर पनि हामी अरुको नक्कल गर्न पछी पर्दैनौ । हामीलाई आफ्नोपनको आभास दिन भन्दा अरुको नक्कल गरेर नाटक देखाउदा रमाइलो लाग्छ । यो तामाङ समाज भित्रको एक कटु सत्य हो । त्यसैले जबसम्म यी र यस्ता चिजहरुमा हामीले आफ्नो ब्यबाहारमा परिवर्तन ल्याउन सकिन्नौ तबसम्म सुन्दर समाजको कल्पना गर्नु बेकार छ ।

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 8, 2010 at 7:35pm
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Laaso fyaafulla Yonzon lama ji,,,
Thank you so much for your all words. I think you got the things wrongly. I just raised the topic not about segregation and discrimination between male and female, but of about what actually is our society heading towards. Yes, females are capable as males and no objections at all on it.

You can't have a true matter of fact unless you step there to the doorsteps. As you mentioned that you are in America, but to understand the fact about tamang and their conditions, you should be there to the village where the real pains and difficulties can be seen.

I had also done many researches about tamang people and tamang community. These all are the facts what i have experienced with my live confront among to the people. A surface research does no work for sure which you should keep in your mind....

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 8, 2010 at 7:38pm
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लासो फ्याफुल्ला चन्डिक ज्योजो,,
हजुरलाई पनि थुजेछे छोटोमा बुदागत रुपमा वास्तविक चित्र प्रस्तुत गर्नुभएकोमा । पक्कै पनि यी सवालहरुलाई सम्बोधन गर्ने हो भने हाम्रो समाजमा रहेको कस्टहरुलाई हदै सम्म समाधान गर्न सकिन्छौ । हामीमा अझै पनि त्यो चेतनाको स्तरको बिकास भै नसकेको अवस्था छ । त्यसैले गाउ बस्तिका ती तामाङहरुमा चेतनाको किरण भर्नु जरुरी लाग्छ ।

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 8, 2010 at 7:46pm
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Embee Ghising ji,,
You are absolutely came out with true words. And i absolutely put my all words of supports with strong views. We r in the mission now.... One day we'll prove that we too have capacity,ability to do something gud. Doesn't matter whether we were backward or we are..but if we don't make some drastic change in ourselves that matters. So, we should never think we r backward and we r not capable enough to do this n that. We have to keep positive approach and should move forward accordingly.

Considerable changes are seen to the days with courses of time. Still we are not there to the mainstream of country politically. Until and unless, we awared politically a dream of great changes can't be realized in reality.......We will definitely forget you not to include you for the next, and that is for sure...............we will be there to come out as "blue pearl of tamang society". We the young and energetic team will try to put our extreme potentials for those works. All we need, is that of your supportive hands..Thanks indeed for your all supports........

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 8, 2010 at 8:14pm
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Embee Ghising, पञ्चमान जि, उदय सम्धी:
लासो फ्यफुल्ला अनि थुजेछे पनि यहाँहरुलाई । यहाँहरुले उठाउनु भएको सवाल र तर्क बितर्कको यो सन्दर्भ निकै सान्दर्भिक लाग्यो । हामीले गर्नुपर्ने कार्यहरु धेरै छन्, समाजको परिवर्तन एकै चोटि व्हात्त हुने र आज एक चित्र अचानक बिहान हुँदा अर्कै । Embee जिले राख्नुभएको कुराहरु प्राप्तिको लागि पक्कै पनि समय लाग्नेछ, हामी त्यो समय सम्म कुर्न सक्छौ त भन्ने सवाल पनि अर्कोतिर प्रबल रुपमा उब्जिने गर्छ। सकरात्मक सोचबाट नै सकरात्मक परिवर्तनको अपेक्षा गर्न सकिन्छ ।

पञ्चमान जिले जनजाती सम्बन्धी उठाउनु भएको सवालमा:
पक्कै पनि हामी शेतामगुराली सोझा बर्ग अन्तर्गतको सोझाहरु, सोझाबाट फाईदा लुट्नेहरु धेरै हुन्छन् पक्कै । ईतिहासको त्यो कालखन्डले ठगित हामी तामाङ, अझै पनि हाम्रो अधिकारको लागि ठुलो आवाजमा गर्जिन सकिरहेको अवस्था छैन । एक आवाज कराइदिदा अन्य सहयात्रिहरु पन्छिदिन्छ । अनि हाम्रा आवाजहरु हेर्दाहेर्दै निरर्थकतातिर मोडिन्छ ।

अर्को महत्वपूर्ण सवाल भनेको, राजनीतिक सचेतनाको कमी पनि हो । कुनै पनि समाजको सुन्दर चित्र कोर्न ब्यक्ती र समाजमा राजनीतिक सचेतना हुनु जरुरी छ । देश र परिस्थितीको यथार्थ कुरा थाहा पाउने माध्यम नै राजनीति हो । हामी देशको मुलधारमा अझै पनि प्रबेश पाउन सकेका छौइनौ, जसले गर्दा हाम्रो समाज भित्र रहेका अनेकौ समस्याहरु चाङ चाङ हुँदै थुप्रिरहेका छन् । त्यो चाङ माथिको अर्को चाङले झाङको रुप लिएको छ । यदी हाम्रा हातहरु बलियो रुपमा त्यसलाई पन्छाउनु रहेको भए शायद हाम्रो समाज अगाडि पुगिसकेको अवस्था हुने थियो ।

उदय सम्धिको बिचारमाथिको सवालमा:
तपाईंले ब्यक्त गर्नुभएको केही सवालहरु अत्यन्त महत्वपूर्ण लाग्यो । हामिले जत्ती बोल्छौ त्यो जब कार्यन्वायन पक्षमा पुग्छ, तब हामी प्राप्तिको लागि सम्पूर्ण रुपमा आफुलाई प्रस्तुत गर्न सक्दैनौ । केही साथीहरुमा राजनीतिक चेतना पनि नभएको होइन, तर अग्रसर नभैदिदा अन्य नबुझ्नेहरु त चुपो लागेर हात बाध्नै पर्ने अवस्था आउछ । अहिले ताम्सालिङ प्राप्तीको सवालमा हामी बिच नै पाएको फरक बिचारको सन्दर्भलाई लिन सक्छौ कि कत्ती सम्म हामीलाई अ-स्पस्टताको सिकार बनाएको रहेछ राजनीतिक रुपमा भनेर ।

हामी तामाङहरु भर्‍याङको काम गरेर अन्यलाई माथिल्लो पोस्टसम्म पुर्‍यायौ तर हामी भने त्यही ठडिरह्यौ । वास्तवमै जबसम्म यी चिजहरुमा हामीले आफुलाई परिवर्तन गर्न सकिन्नौ तबसम्म हामीले गर्ने कार्यहरु बिफल हुनेछन् । त्यसैले कार्ययोजना भरपर्दो र बिस्वासिलो बनाइनुपर्छ । यसले आगामी दिनमा आउने सम्पूर्ण कार्यहरुलाई सबल र सहज बनाउने छ ।

Reply by Lo Khil Tamang on November 8, 2010 at 8:15pm
Manik Jyojyo Fyafulla, and Thuchechhe!
Tapai ko yo jankari le ma sarai khusi chhu kina ki maile hamro tamang haruko bishayama dherai janne ra bujhne mauka payako chha. ho dai hami tamang Sabai chij ko dhani chhaun Hamro Afnai Culture chha, Hamro afnai Bhasha chha, Hamro bhumi sangako sambandha chha, Hamro afanai chad parba chha, Hamro Afnai Dharma chha ra Hamro Afnai Hrui Pratha chha.........Tara pani hami kina ta aru ko pachhi pachhi daguri raheko chhaun ta?
Malai lagchha yaha nera Hamro Tamang netritwa ko kami chha. Jun sukai chhetra ma Hamro Tamang netritwa garna agadi badheko dekhinna. Yaha yauta prashna rakhna man lagyo Ke ahile Samma hamro Tamang jati ma yasto netritwa Garne Neta Janmeko chhaina ta? ?????? Ki
Bigat ma bhanda tamang ahile educated bhaisakeko chha tara Hami yak haun bhanne bhavana ko bikash bhayako chhaina jasto lagchha.
Hami sabai yak bhayara Uthyun bhane asambhav kehi chhaina. Hami le Afnai PArampara, Afnai ritiriwas, afnai Dharma, Afnai Culture Ra Afnai chad parba Lai manyata diun. Hamro Netrito pangti bata nai agadi badhaun bhane Hami chhitai Him shikhar ma pugna sakchhaun. Aru ko Nakkal garera hoina Hamro Afnai Yatharth lai Manyata diun. TABA MATRA HAMI AGADI BADHNA AKCHHAUN.
Lasso! THUCHECHHE!

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 8, 2010 at 8:32pm
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ग्याबक तामाङ जि,,,
थुजेछे यहाँलाई पनि प्रतिकृयाको लागि । मैले केही बुझेका र केही आफुले प्रत्यक्ष देखेका घटनाहरुलाई देख्दाखेरी अनुभव गरेका कुराहरु बाडेको हो । यो राष्ट्रिय रुपमा नै बहस चलाऊनुपर्ने नै बिषय रहेको छ । हामीलाई थलिएको प्रसँग र हाम्रो पनि देशको मुलधारमा प्रतिनिधित्व हुनुपर्ने सवाल महत्वपूर्ण छ । हामी केही जान्ने बुझ्नेहरुले समाजको लागि केही गर्नुपर्ने टड्कारो आवश्यकता देखिन्छ ।

तपाईंलाई पनि धेरैधेरै धन्यवाद केही महत्वपूर्ण तामाङ सम्बन्धी गाभिएका तथ्यहरुलाई सार्वजनिक रुपमा ल्याइदिनुभएकोमा । हामीले हाम्रो अवस्था के कस्तो थियो भन्ने कुरा पनि स्पस्ट बुझ्नु जरुरी छ । भोली कसैले तामाङ सम्बन्धी प्रश्नहरु तेर्स्याइदिदा वाल्ल पर्ने स्थितीको निर्माण हुनु हुन्न । किनभने हामी आँफैमा सस्कार सस्कृतिको धनी जातको रुपमा चिनिन्छौ । ईतिहासमा मनको सम्पूर्ण भावनाहरु र गफगाफ नै गीतमार्फत प्रस्तुत गर्न सक्ने खुबी भएका हाम्रा पुर्खाहरुको मुक्त कन्ठले तारिफ गर्नै पर्छ ।


हाम्रो राष्ट्रलाई बुद्ध वा बौद्ध राज्य किन बनाएन त भन्ने सवालमा:
एक महत्वपूर्ण कुरा यहाँ नेर आएर खड्किन्छ । नेपाल एक बुद्धको जन्मथलोको देश तर बौद्ध राष्ट्र वा बुद्ध राष्ट्र नभनेर "एक मात्र हिन्दू राष्ट्र" भन्नु आँफैमा लज्जास्पद कुरा लाग्छ । बरु अरु राष्ट्रहरुलाई बौद्ध वा बुद्ध राष्ट्र भनेर सम्बोधन गर्दा रमाउछन् । "आजै देखी नेपाल धर्मनिरपेक्ष राष्ट्र भएको छ" भनेर भन्नुको आशयको अर्थ बुझेका छैन क्यारे । तराइमा "हिन्दु युवा सँगठन"ले नेपाललाई फेरी हिन्दू राष्ट्र नै बनाइनुपर्छ भनेर फेरी आवाज उठाइएको त्यो प्रसङग हास्यस्पद नै लाग्छ ।

त्यसमाथि भारतमा पनि अब त नक्कली लुम्बिनी पो बनाइदै छ रे । गूगल जस्तो विश्वाले सर्च इन्जिनको रुपमा मानिएकोमा पनि "बुद्ध जन्मेको ठाउँ भारत पो देखाउन थाल्छ ।" भारतमा स्वामिको चर्चा बटुलेका रामदेवले आफ्नो पुस्तकमा नै स्पस्ट लेखिभ्याएका छन् "India a birth place of Lord Buddha", चादनि चोक टू चाइनामा "जिस देशमे बुद्धका जन्म हुवा था" र यस्तै भ्रामक खबरहरु बाहिर आउनुले बिस्वसामु एक भ्रमात्मक चित्र बनेको छ। तर हाम्रा सरकारमा बस्ने ठेकेदारहरुलाई कहाँ नै वास्ता छ र राष्ट्रिय स्वाभिमानको । बरु राम्देव आउँदा खुट्टा नै ढोगेर भगवान बनाइदिन्छन् ।

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 8, 2010 at 8:54pm
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लो खिल आले,,,
मलाई पनि धेरै खुशी लागेको छ । कहिले मैले जानेको कुराहरु बाड्ने गर्छु कहिले अरुको कुराहरु लिने गर्छु । शायद यही प्रकृयाले आज मलाई केही सिक्ने र जान्ने मौका पनि दिएको छ । कहिले बहसको मैदानमा उत्रिदाको मज्जा पनि छुट्टै हुने गर्छ । साथीहरुको आफ्नै खाले तर्कहरु आएका छन् । आफ्नो ठाउमा एकदमै जायज छ पनि । तर कतिपय अवस्थामा कस्तो हुन्छ भने, हामीले कुनै पनि चिजलाई लिन गल्ती गरिरहेका हुन्छौ । जब कसैले गलत रुपमा कुनै कुरालाई व्याख्या गरिन्छ तब हाम्रो आपत्तिका शब्दहरु पोखाइनुपर्दछ ।

अस्ती मात्रा एक तामाङ बस्तिको अवस्थाबारे केही तामाङ समाजका गन्यमान्य ब्यक्तिहरुसँग स्थलगत अध्ययनको लागि निस्के । एक शहरभन्दा केही किलोमिटरमात्र परको बस्ती, जहाँ तामाङहरुको बाक्लो बस्ती थियो । तिहारको समय, हामीमा रहेको पुरातन सोच र मान्यता अझै हटिसकेको अवस्था थिएन । त्यहाको घटनालाई यहाँ ब्याखा गर्दा तामाङहरुकै खिल्ली उडाएको जस्तो लाग्छ ।

कुरा के भो भने, एक घरमा टन्न जाड खाएर छोराको घर प्रबेश भो । बाबुले किन खाइस यस्तो भनेर के मात्र शब्द निकालेको थियो, बुवामाथि नै छोराको थप्पड बर्सिन थाल्यो । हामी साथीहरु हेरिरह्यौ । त्यहा बस्नुभन्दा बरु अरु परको ठाउँ तिर पो गएर बुझ्न जानुपर्ला भन्ने सोच बनायौ र त्यही अनुरुप हाम्रो पाइलाई अन्तै बढायौ । अर्को तिर एक जड्याह टिल्ल जाड खाएर हल्लिरहेको थियो । नजिक जान नपाउदै निउ खोज्ने र लखेट्ने धम्की पनि दियो । सँगै गएका दुई तीन जना चेलीहरु ती फोहोरी शब्दहरु सुन्न नसकेर केही पर नै बसिरहनु भो । त्यहा सम्झाउने कुनै अवस्था थिएन, किनभने सुन्ने क्षमता पुरै घुमिसकेको थियो ।

यो कुनै काल्पनिक घटना नभएर म स्वयमले भोगेको यथार्थ हो । जब कि काठमाडौं छेउछाउमा नै यस किसिमको घटनाहरु र अचेत अवस्थामा तामाङ हरु छन् भने कैयौ गाउबस्तीमा तामाङहरुको स्थिती कस्तो होला भनेर सहझै अनुमान गर्न सक्छौ । हामीले जसरी केही चेतना जगाउछौ तामाङ बस्तिमा गएर भनेर हिंडेका थियौ, तर हाम्रो आशा निराशामा परिनत भो ।

नेत्रित्वको सवालमा:
हामी आँफैमा सक्षम नहुँदा पनि हामीले माग राख्नु साह्रै मुर्खता हो । यदी राष्ट्रिय स्तरमा दक्ष ब्यक्तिहरुको माग भयो भने हामी तामाङहरुमा प्रतिनिधित्व गर्ने क्षमता छैन । भए पनि थोरै औलामा गन्न सक्ने स्थिती छ । अनि कसरी हुन्छ त हामी अगाडि । जसको क्षमता छ त्यसैले पो नेत्रित्व गर्छ, यो सैद्धान्तिक रुपमा पनि पाच्य कुरा हो ।

ताम्सालिङ गनराज्यको प्रमुखमा अहिले अग्नी सापकोटा छ । जो गैर तामाङ हुन् । जसलाई तामाङकै बारेमा जानकारी र ज्ञान छैन भने हाम्रो आवाजको कसरी सम्बोधन हुन सकिएला र खोइ ? त्यसैले हामीले हाम्रो बिकासको लागि तामाङ नेत्रित्वमा तामाङलाई अगाडि सार्नुपर्छ ।

Reply by Panchaman pakhrin Tamang on November 8, 2010 at 10:17pm
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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 9, 2010 at 8:32am
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केही दिनयता ब्यस्तताले गर्दा यहाँहरुको प्रतिकृयाहरु नियाल्न पाइरहेको थिएन । त्यही भएर मात्रा हो नि हजुर ........

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Lo Khil TamangPermalink Reply by Lo Khil Tamang on November 9, 2010 at 9:36pm
Lasso Manik jyo jyo Fyafulla!
Hajurko yo mahatopurna bichar lai ma swagat nagari rahana sakdina. Hajur le yo bhognu bhayako yathartha hami tamang haru ko mukhya kamjori ho. Yo tapaile jaha tamang haruko yak basti ma paunu bhayo tara yo yatharth hajaraun Tamang bsti haru ma bigbigi chha. Hamro Tamang haru Chad Parba ra Riti riwaj ko nam ma Jad ra Raksi prayog gari Afno Bhabishya ko ti Santan hru ko sunaulo bhabishya mathi khelwad gari raheko chha. Tesaile Hamro tamang ko bikash garna Sarbapratham Jad Ra RAksi ko prayog rokna Saknu parchha. Yasko lagi Tamang Janachetana mulak Karyakram lai bistar gari Tamang basti haru ma Tapai Hami bhanau Tamang jati ko Shuva chintak haru pugna jaruri chha.
Netrito ko Sawal ma yaha le rakhnu bhayako Tamsaling Ganarajya ko jankari anusar pramukh ma Agni Sapkota Chha,bhannu bhayo tara kina ta? Ke yaha Netrito garna sakne Tamang nai chhaina ta? Wa Netrito garna sakne Tamang huda hudai pani pheri yaha Bahun bad lagu bhayo ta? Yadi Netrito GArna sakne Tamang chhaina bhane Hamile chhito bhanda chhito Hamro Tamang lai Agadi sarnu paryo Je Jastai paristhiti ma pani Agadi badhnu parchha. Ra Agadi badhunu paryo. Kina aaja ko 21aun satabdi ma pani pachhi hatne ?????????? Tamang Gana Rajya ma Tamang nai Pramukh hunu parchha yadi Tamang haru ko bikash garne ho bhane bhanne mero manyata chha.
Lasso Thuchechhe!!!!

Reply by Chyangba Bihan on November 10, 2010 at 12:46am
राससले दिएका यी तलका समाचार पढ्नुहोला| कसरी यो समाचार न्युज वर्दी भएछ| पढेर तपाइको तामांग मनमा बिभिन्न विचार पैदा हुनेछन|
१. तामांगहरुको बारेमा किन यसरी नेगेटिभ न्युज मात्रै दिएको होला
२. थुक्क मुला हो, धिक्कार छ, उन्नति गर्नु छैन खालि रक्सि खायो, झ'डा गर्यो, आपसमै काटमार्!
३. अन्धकारमा राखेका छन्, पेलेका छन् पेलेका छन् सोझा साझा तामांगहरुलाई| कहिले खुलिने हो जालो?
आफ्नै देशभित्र पनि अनागरिक सरह भएर बाँच्न परने वाध्यता के होला| खै गणतन्त्र?? कागलाई वेल पाक्यो,
हर्ष न विस्मात!
४. यो कुरिती र कुसंस्कार हटाउनपर्छ, घेवामा रक्सि मासुको चलन एकैचोटी हटाउन नसके पनि घटाउने आन्दोलन गर्नपर्छ|
नेताहरुले चुनाव ताका तामांगहरुलाई घ्याम्पा दिएको जिल्ला यही हो क्यारे|
त्यो सबको निकास के त? यस्ता सामाजिक कुरिती र कुसंस्कारहरुलाई सुधार गर्न हामी आफैले आन्दोलन चलाउन पर्छ|
हामी आफैले आँखा खोल्न सकनु पर्छ|
हाम्रा लागि अरुले गर्ने छैन भने त सिद्ध भैसेको छ| यंहाहरुको बुझाव र सुझाव राख्नुहोला|

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नुवाकोट (त्रिशूली), कार्तिक २३ - शिखरबेंसी गाविस- ८ का ५० वर्षीय काले तामाङको कुटपिटबाट मृत्यु भएको छ ।

वडा नं ८ कै छिमेकीको घरमा घेवा (मृत्युसंस्कार)बाट रक्सीले मातेर गए राति घर फर्किँदै गर्दा बाटोमा दाबा छिरिङलगायतको चारजनाको समूहको कुटपिटबाट तामाङको मृत्यु भएको प्रहरी निरीक्षक भोजदेव खतिवडाले जानकारी दिए ।

राति कुटाइ खाएर घर आएर सुतेका तामाङ मंगलबार बिहान मृत फेला परेको प्रहरीले जनाएको छ । घटनास्थल सदरमुकाम विदुरबाट ३० किलोमिटर पूर्वमा दुर्मम गाउँमा पर्छ ।

घटनास्थलतर्फ गएको प्रहरी टोली नआएकाले विस्तृत जानकारी आउन बाँकी रहेको जिल्ला प्रहरी कार्यालयले जनाएको छ । रासस

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 11, 2010 at 12:04pm
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लो खिल आले, लासो फ्याफुल्ला फेरी पनि,,,
थुजेछे तपाईंलाई सुन्दर सान्दर्भिक प्रतिकृयाको लागि । पक्कै पनि हाम्रो चेतनाको स्तर निकै बढेको छ । हामी आँफै सजक र सचेत भैसकेको अवस्था छ । केही सवालहरु अझै पनी सम्बोधनको क्रममा नै रुमल्लिरहेका छ। हामी र हाम्रो मागप्रती सजक र सचेत हुन आजको हाम्रो तमाङ समाजको अपरिहार्यता हो ।यस्तै सहयात्रिहरुको महत्वपूर्ण भूमिकाले हाम्रा आगामी दिनको लागि पक्कै पनि मार्ग प्रसस्त गर्ने छ । जुन साथ र समर्थनको कुरा छ,,त्यसलाई हामीले हृदयङगम पक्कै गर्नेछौ । हामी हाम्रो ठाउबाट सक्दो प्रयासको थालनि गर्नै पर्ने हुन्छ । कतै एक ठाउको दाजुभाइले तामाङ हितको लागि आवाज उठाइदिन्छ भने आवाज हामीले मिलाउन जानुपर्छ । तामाङ समाजमा अझै पनि धेरै यी र यस्ता समस्याहरुले टोकी नै राखेका छन । त्यसैले चेतनाको त्यो किरनलाई हामीले तामाङहरुको मनमस्तिस्कमा पुर्‍याउन सक्नुपर्छ । हामी तामाङहरु बोलिमा जत्ती बोल्छौ, त्यो गर्न सकिरहेको अवस्था छैन । हामीमा जब सम्म राजनीतिक चेतना आउँदैन नि, तबसम्म हाम्रो समाजले ठुलै फड्को मार्ने छ भन्ने सोच्नु सपना देख्नु जस्तै हो ।

एक जना बोले अरु चुपो लागेर बस्ने हामी सोझा जाती, त्यसैले उठाइएका आवाज पनि बिलिन हुनुपर्ने अवस्था छ। यसमा युवाहरुले नै बिशेष भूमिका खेल्न सक्नेछ भन्ने मलाई पनि लाग्छ । हामीमा नेत्रित्वको क्षमता नभएको भने पक्कै होइन तर पनि हामीलाई अझै पनि दबाइएकै अवस्था छ । आज एक ठाउको तामाङहरु आफ्नो अधिकारको लागि निरन्तर अगाडि बढीरहेको अवस्थामा अन्य ठाउको तामाङहरुले मनन गर्नै पर्छ । एक तामाङलाई पीडा हुँदा अर्को तामाङको मुटु दुख्नुपर्छ, तब मात्र हामी सच्चा रुपमा तामाङको अस्तित्व र पहिचानलाई अक्षुन राख्न सक्षम हुन्छौ । जबसम्म हामीले हाम्रो समाजलाई ब्यबस्थित तवरले सन्चालन गर्न सकिन्नौ तबसम्म हाम्रा मुद्धाहरु र हाम्रा कुराहरुको सम्बोधन हुनेछैन ।

थुप्रै तामाङबस्तिहरु छन् जहाँ अझै पनि चेतना र शिक्षाको अभाव छ । यो अभाव तामाङ समाजमा खड्किएको र अड्किएको एक गम्भिर समस्या हो । जब सम्म यी समस्याहरुको जरालाई चुडाउन हामी सकिन्नौ तबसम्म हामीले हाम्रो समाजलाई पक्कै पनि अगाडि बढाउन सकिन्नौ । हामीले यो इतिहसको कुरालाई बिर्सिदिन हुन्न पक्कै पनि । हजारौ तामाङहरुले आफ्नो ज्यानलाई धरापमा राखेर गरेको योगदानलाई सम्बोधन नगरिनुले कत्ती थिचोमिचोमा राखेको रहेछ भन्ने कुरा अझै पनि स्पस्टै हुन्छ ।

त्यसैले तपाईंले भनेजस्तै यदी सच्चा रुपमा तामाङको हित हुने काम गर्नु छ भने "जाडरक्सी सेवन बन्द" र "ताम्सालिङमा गैर तामाङ होइन तामाङ नेत्रित्वलाई अगाडि सार्नुपर्छ" भन्ने कुराहरुलाई वास्तविक रुपमा गर्न सक्नुपर्छ ।

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 11, 2010 at 12:07pm
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लासो फ्याफुल्ला अनि थुजेछे पनि च्याङ्बा बिहान जि,,,
वास्तविकरुपमा तामाङहरुमा रहेको कुरालाई राख्नु भो यहाँले । अवस्था यस्तै छ हाम्रो तामाङ समाजको,,,त्यसैले यसलाई तामाङ समाजको "वास्तविक चित्र" भनेर सङ्ञा दिदा कुनै आपत्ति नहोला ।

Reply by Dorje Bomjan on November 17, 2010 at 12:51am
मनिक जि,मेरो बिचारमा तामाङहरुलाई अरुले पछारेको होइन,जो तामाङहरु अगाडी छ,उनीहरुले चै नतानेको हो र अर्को कुरा कति पय तामाङ हरु आफ़ै जानि जानि पनि जान नाखोजेर अनि ङान्बा हरुको कुरा सुनेर पनि पिछडीयेको हो जस्तो लाग्छ

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 19, 2010 at 7:11pm
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दोर्जे बोम्जन जि,,
ललासो थुजेछे तपाईंलाई आफ्नो बिचारको लागि । पक्कै पनि हामी आँफैमा पनि धेरै परिवर्तन गर्नु जरुरी छ । शायद हामीले समयको त्यो दौडाइसँग हाम्रो समाज र तामाङहरुलाई अगाडि बढाउन नसकेर पो हो कि । हामी प्रयास गरिरहेका छौ तर पनि जुन रफ्तारमा हामी अगाडि बढ्नुपर्ने हो त्यो भएको भने छैन । त्यही भएर सुस्त गतिमा हिंडेको हाम्रो समाजलाई अगाडि दौडाउनुपर्ने टड्कारो आवश्यकता पनि देखिन्छ ।

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Kailash TamangPermalink Reply by Kailash Tamang on November 23, 2010 at 12:20pm
लहो हामी निश्चय पनि हामी तामाङ जाति अरुको जातिको तुलनामा पहिले पछाडि थियौ । तर आज समय बदलिसकेको छ । हामी तामाङहरु पनि अब अग्रगमनको पथमा हिडिरहेका छौ । हुन त हामी पहिलापनि पछाडि त थिएनौ किन भने हामी पछि परेको भनेको शिक्षा, स्वास्थय र पैशामा मात्र हो । त्यति खेर पनि हामी संस्कार, संस्कृति र मौलिखताको धनी जाति थियौ । कला, दक्षता, ईमानदारीता हाम्रो पुर्खाहरुको नासो हो । त्यसैले त आज हामी तामाङ हौ भनेर ठाडो शिर पारी भन्न सक्छौ । किनभने हामी तामाङहरुले न त कहिलै प्रलोभनमा परी, न त डर र त्रासमा नै परी हाम्रो संस्कार, मौलिखता, संस्कृति र ईमानदारीता नै आँच आउन दियौ । आजको दिनहरुमा तामाङहरु पनि कलम विर बनिसकेको कुरालाई हामीले नकार्न सक्दैनौ । त्यसैले तामाङहरुलाई अब पछाडी परेको भन्न सायदै न्यायोचित नहोला की ?...........................

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on November 23, 2010 at 3:03pm
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कैलाश तामाङ जि,,,
धेरैधेरै धन्यवाद यहाँको छोटो तर धेरै चिजहरु समेटिएको सुन्दर प्रतिकृयाको लागि । तपाईंको बिचारमा मेरो पनि सहमत । जुन रुपमा हामी ईतिहासमा पछी परेका थियौ र पारीएको थियो अहिले त्यो अवस्थाबाट हामी निकै अगाडि बढीसकेको अवस्था छ । समयको मागसँगै तामाङहरु पनि अरु झै अगाडि पनि छन् । हाम्रो इमान्दारिताको फाइदा लुछ्दै अरुहरु माथि पुगिसकेका छन् अब त हामी तामाङहरुमा पनि केही चेतना आएको हो कि भान हुन्छ मलाई पनि । हामीले केही फड्को मारिसकेको अवस्था छ, तर अझै पनि धेरै हिंड्नु पनि छ ।

Reply by Urmila Tamang on February 15, 2011 at 2:20pm
Namaste,

We Tamang r backward due to :

1. Education
2. Financial position
3. Self motivation
4. High Birth rate

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on February 16, 2011 at 5:02pm
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Urmila ji,,
Thank you so much for the considerable points......yea i agree with your views....

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Chandra Lal TamangPermalink Reply by Chandra Lal Tamang on March 28, 2011 at 11:01am
manik sir namaste, tamang haru pa6i parnako karan aafulai sano ra anpadh aafaile samjhera ra aafu pani aru bhanda kam chhaina bhanne bhabana nabhayara jasto lag6. manik sir maile dherai rachana haru oraya padheko sabailai kam lagne khalko motivation cource post gareko hun6 tara tc ko publise pagema 2 din bhanda badhi basdaina ra kasaibata pani kunai prati kriya audaina tesaile aba ta tc ma kunai rachana post garna pani man lagdaina, kamtima ek hapta samma mero lekh home pagema publish garna lai k garnu par6. please Board memberko natale batai dinu hus sir.
Chandra.

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थिङ तमाङ तिलकPermalink Reply by थिङ तमाङ तिलक on June 1, 2011 at 12:39pm
(सम्माननीय मनिक लाल ज्यू ) हामी तामांग हरु पछी परेको बिशेस कारण शिक्ष्या नै पहिलो कारण जस्तो म लाई लाग्छ !

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karma singh lamaPermalink Reply by karma singh lama on June 2, 2011 at 11:41am
दिन रात जाँड खाने । आफ्नो हैसियत बिर्सेर अरुको नक्कल गर्ने । गोजीमा एक कौडी नभए पनि लाखौको धाक देखाउने । देखासिकीमा घरको दुरी चढ्ने । आफ्नो धैर्यतामा अडिग नरहने । आफूलाई तामाङको ठेकेदार ठान्ने तामाङ को नाममा आफ्नो दुनो सोज्याउने म नै तामाङ हो भनी डम्फू बजाउने भरौटे दलालहरुको कारण तामाङ पछाडि परेको हो ।

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on June 3, 2011 at 8:39am
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Chandra Lal Tamang जि,,,
लासो थुजेछे यहाँको प्रतिकृयाको लागि । पक्कै पनि यहाँको बिचारमा मेरो पूर्ण सहमत । हामी तामाङहरु आँफैमा एक खाले हिन्नताबोधले मनमा राम्रै बास जमाउन सफल भएकोले कमजोर मानशिकताको सिकार हामी बन्न पुगेका छौ । तामाङ चौतारीमा थुप्रै रचना तथा थुप्रै तामाङहरुलाई उत्प्रोत गर्ने खालका सामाग्रीहरु पोस्ट हुने गर्छन् । दिनकै ७-८ पोस्टहरु र तस्बिरहरु पनि त्यही क्रममा आउने गर्छन् । बिगतमा जुन रुपले हाम्रा चौतारी सदस्यहरुको ध्यान ती महत्वपूर्ण पोस्टहरुमा जाने गर्थे, तर त्यो क्रममा केही कमी भएको हो कि, म स्वयमले सेमत अनुभव गरेको कुरा हो । मैले पोस्ट गरेको रचनाहरुमा "कम्तिमा २० कमेन्टस्हरु पुग्थे त अहिले त्यो क्रम १-२ कमेन्टस्हरुमा सिमित हुनुपरेको छ" ।

होम पेजमा राख्ने सन्दर्भमा:
होम पेजमा राख्ने सन्दर्भमा के हुन्छ भने नि हजुर, जब कुनै अन्य साथीहरुले आफ्नो पोस्टलाई अगाडि सार्छन् नि त्यही अगाडि आउने गर्छन् । सबैको चाहना आफ्नो पोस्ट अगाडि पेजमा आओस भन्ने नै हुन्छ तर त्यो सम्भव भने हुन्न । यदी त्यस्तो गर्न चाहनुहुन्छ भने एक टिप्स दिन चाहन्छु । जुन पोस्टलाई होम पेजमा राख्न चाहनु भएको छ त्यो पोस्टमा जानुस् । अनि "options" मा गएर "Edit post" भन्ने अप्सनमा क्लिक गर्नुस् । ठ्याक्कै त्यसको मुनी अप्सनहरु हुन्छन् । ती अप्सनमध्ये "Now" मा टिक गरी "Publish post" अप्सनमा क्लिक गर्नुस् ............

Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on June 3, 2011 at 8:43am
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थिङ तामाङ तिलक जि,,,
ओ हो सम्बोधन अली उच्च स्तरको नै पो भो त हजुर हेहे । "सम्माननिय" शायद यो शब्द प्रधानमन्त्रीलाई सम्बोधन गर्दा प्रयोग हुने शब्द जस्तो पो लाग्छ । थुजेछे यहाँको प्रतिकृयाको लागि । पक्कै पनि पहिलो पहिलो खड्किएको समस्या शिक्षा नै हुन सक्छ । त्यसैले हाम्रा आगामी आउने पीढिहरुलाई शिक्षाको त्यो उज्यालोबाट बन्चित गर्नु-गराउनु चाँही हुन्न है ।

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on June 3, 2011 at 8:52am
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धन्यवाद यहाँलाई आफ्नो महत्वपूर्ण भनाइहरु सारंशमा स्पस्टसँग राख्नुभएकोमा । यी हामी तामाङहरुमा देखिने प्रबल प्रबित्तिहरु हुन् । त्यसैले त तामाङहरुमा पनि दुई खेमाहरु स्पस्ट रुपमा छुट्टिएका छन् । एक समुह साह्रै उच्च कोटीका भने अर्को तल्लो ग्राउन्ड स्तरमै छन् । ती दुई बिचको खाडललाई हामी सम्पूर्ण तामाङहरुले पूर्ण सक्नुपर्छ ।

अर्को महत्वपूर्ण सवाल, अझै पनि शिक्षाको त्यो उज्यालोपनबाट बन्चित छन् हामी तामाङहरु । परम्पराको नाममा पुरानो सस्कृतिहरुलाई अन्धाधुन्द रुपमा अबलम्बन गरेका छौ । जाडरक्सी आज पनि प्रयोगमा ल्याएकै अवस्था छ । यसले परिवारभित्र एक खाले आशाअन्तिलाई सहज रुपमा भित्र्याएका पनि छन् । अर्को यहाँले भनेजस्तै तामाङ हित गर्छु भन्नेहरुबाट नै ठगिएका छन् तामाङ समाज ।

Reply by binatamang on June 5, 2011 at 8:31pm
सर्वप्रथम त म मणिक जीलाई धन्यवाद दिन चाहन्छु यो अतिनै विचरणिय सवाल यहाँ राखि आ-आफ्ना विचारहरु माझ्न उपयुक्त वातावरण सृजना गरिदिनुभएकोमा।यस सवालमा मेरो पनि हजुरहरुसंगै सहमतिय विचार छ।अलिकति थप्न म के चाहन्छु भने हिजो दिनहरुमा हामी माथि अन्याय भएकै थियो ।हामीलाई मतवाली जात भनि मदिरा निर्माण र सेवनमा उकासी अलमलाउने अघोरी र षड्यन्त्रकारी कामहरु आफुलाई सभ्य भनाउन चाहनेहरुले गरेकै थियो ।तर समय परिवर्तन संगै हामीमा चेतनाले जरो गाडदै गएको छ र आज हामी त्यो भ्रमबाट बाहिर निस्केका छौ।तर अझै हाम्रा तामाङ समाजमा केहि त्यसता युवा अनि बुढापाकाहरुछन् जसलाई यो सबै नराम्रो र कुलत हो भन्ने थाहा हुदाँहुदैँ पनि आफैलाई त्यस नर्क भित्र गाड्दैछन्।बिकास स्वस्त मष्तिस्कको उपज हो भन्न म मन पराउँछु ।तर हामीहरुको मष्तिस्कनै बिमारी छ ।कसरी गर्नसक्छौ प्रगती?अब अरुलाई दोष दिने समय गैसक्यो।आफै जागरुप हुने दिनहरु आइसकेको हामी र हाम्रा तामाङ दाजुभाई दिदीबहिनीहरुले बुझ्नु जरुरी भैईसक्यो।माछा मार्न नसिकि मात्रै माछा हातमा पाउँदा खुसी हुने व्यवहारमा परिवर्तन ल्याउन अत्यावश्यक देखिन्छ।अबका दिनहरुमा यस्ता कुराहरुलाई मनन गर्दै अगाडी बढ्न सक्यौ भने मात्रै हाम्रो हित हुन्छ भन्ने लाग्छ ।

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Manik Lal Ghising TC BoardmemberPermalink Reply by Manik Lal Ghising TC Boardmember on June 5, 2011 at 9:18pm
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बिना तामाङ जि,,,
लासो थुजेछे यहाँलाई पनि आफ्नो महत्वपूर्ण बिचारसहितको प्रतिकृयाको लागि । यहाँले भनेजस्तै बिगतमा जेजस्तो अन्यायमा हामी तामाङहरु पिल्सनुपर्थ्यो त्यो अवस्था भने छैन अहिले । समयले निकै कोल्टे फेरिसकेको छ । हामीमा चेतनाले बिस्तारै जरो गाड्न थालेको छ । तर अझै पनि केही समाज र क्षेत्रमा यो प्रभाब देखिन्छ । फुर्सद हुँदा साथीहरुसँग तामाङहरुको वास्तविकता बुझ्न बेलाबखत तामाङ बस्तिहरुमा पुग्ने गरेको छु । स्थिती हेर्दा कहिलेकाही बिरक्तिएर पानी आउछ(केही समय अगाडि उपत्यका नजिकै भएको तामाङ बस्तिमा जादाको कटु अनुभव)...........

हजुर पक्कै पनि बिना जि, हामी त्यही कमजोर मानशिकतामा अल्झिनु हुन्न । तामाङ भन्ने गर्ब गर्न हामीले मार्ग प्रसस्त तय गर्नु पर्छ नै । एक तामाङको पीडामा अर्को तामाङ रुन सक्यौ भने र सहयोगको लागि हात बढाउन सक्यौ भने अबस्य पनि राम्रो हुने छन् । त्यो बिरामी मस्तिस्कलाई अब बिना कसरको बनाउन हामी मेहेनतका साथ अगाडि बढ्नु आजको समयको वास्तविक माग हुन सक्छ ।

Reply by Babu lal Tamang on June 14, 2011 at 2:28pm
हामी तामाङ जाती धेरै जसो निम्न बर्गमा पर्छ । पच्छी पर्नुको कारणहरु १ एजुकेसन नहुनु २ एजुकेसन भए पनि ब्यावारीक शिक्षा नहुनु ३ मदीरा सेवान गर्नु ४ मेहनत गर्न न खोज्ने ४ मर्दा पर्दा चाँहीने भन्दा समय बिताउने ५ आफ्नो एस्तिथिती नहेरिकन छिट्टै गर्जम गर्ने ६ खूतता तान्ने,रीस् गर्ने,दाआ गर्ने धेरै कारणहरुछन्,अरु जातिले पनि हामी माथि अन्नयाँ गर्छन राजनीति गर्छन हामी धेरै सोजो पनि हो काम गर्न लाज मान्ने अलि अलि पढाई भय थोलो भन्ने,
मोलाई एस्तो लाग्छ ।अरुको देखा सिकी गरने, हजुर हरुलाई क्स्तो लाग्छ मेरो बिचार ? कृपया गल्ती भए माफ गर्नुहोला ।

Reply by Chandra Lal Tamang on June 15, 2011 at 11:54am
मनिक लाल सर,

तपाईले उठान गर्नु भएको -हामी तामाङहरु किन अहिले सम्म सबै क्षेत्रमा पछि परिरहेका छौ त ? के हामीलाई अरुले पछि पारेका हौ त ? भन्ने विषय तामाङ्हरुको लागि अहिलेको अवस्थामा समय सान्दर्भिक नै छ । तर तामाङ्हरु पछि पर्नुको कारणहरु त धेरै छन् । मुख्या समस्या शिक्षा त सबैले देखे कै हो ,तर पनि हाम्रो कला सँस्कृति नै समय सापेक्षा परिमार्जन हुँदै गएन । विज्ञानले शिद्ध गरी सकेका छन् कि एउटै प्रकृतिका जीनबाट विकसित भएका सन्तानहरुमा त्यही जीन विद्यमान हुने हुँदा उनीहरुमा पनि नयाँ विचार, सोँच नआउन सक्छ । अर्को कुरा हाम्रो घर घरमा दहि दुधको सट्टा अन्नलाई कुवाएर जाँड् रक्सी बनाउँछौं र खान्छौं अनि कुहिएका चीज खाए पछि हाम्रो बुद्धि नकुहिएर कस्को कुहिन्छ त , हामीलाई कसैले पछि पारेको जस्तो मलाई लाग्दैन । किन भने हामी भन्दा गरीब बाहुनको छोरा छोरी र हाम्रो छोरा छोरी एउटै स्कुलमा सँगै पढेका छन् भने हाम्रो सन्तानले विचैमा पढाई छाडेर ज्यान परेका छन् भने जान्छन् आर्मी पुलिसमा बन्दुक बोक्न र ज्यान नपरेकाहरु ज्यामी, डकर्मी, सिकर्मी यस्तै यस्तै तल्लो स्तर मै रहन्छ । उता आफू सँगै स्कुल पढेका क्षेत्री बाहुनका छोरा छोरी एक से एक उच्च शिक्षा हाँसिल गरिसकेका हुन्छन् । अव राष्ट्रले प्रत्येक नागरिकलाई समान अवसर र चुनौति दिने हो । जो सँग अवसरलाई र चुनौतिलाई अँगाल्ने शक्ति, ज्ञान,योग्यता र शीप हुन्छ ऊ अगाडि आउँछ र उसैले हरेक क्षेत्र र स्तरको नेतृत्व दायी भूमिका निर्वाह गर्न सक्छ । अव हामी सँग केही छैन भने हामी पछाडि नपरे को पर्ने ? कसै सँग हामीले समानताको अधिकार मागेर पाउनेवाला छैन । किन भने जस्ले माग्छ ऊ सधैं तल नै पर्ने हो र जस्ले दिने हो ऊ सधैं माथि नै हुने हो । मागेर प्राप्त भएको कुरा कहिल्यै दिगो र आफ्नो हुँदैन । अर्को कुरा मागेर यहाँ केही पनि पाउँने वाला छैन । त्यसो भए नमागी कनै प्राप्त गर्ने भनेको सक्षम भएर प्रतिस्पर्धा गर्ने हो । प्रतिस्पर्धा गर्नको लागि ज्ञान, शिप र योग्यता त चाहियो । यसको लागि पढ्नु अनिवार्य छ । अव प्रश्न उठ्न सक्छ कि पढे लेखेका तामाङ्हरुले पनि अवसर पाएन किन ? जव सम्म हामी आत्मनिर्णय र आफ्नो अधिकार प्रति सचेत, जाग्रीत र स्व–शासित हुन सक्दैन तव सम्म पछाडि नै पर्ने हो । कसैले दास बनाउनुमा जत्ति मानवाधिकार हनन् हुन्छ, त्यो भन्दा कयौं गुण बढी मानवाधिकारको हनन् दासत्व स्वीकार्नले हुन्छ । राण शासनकालमा पढ्नबाट बन्चीत तामाङ् मात्रै थिएनन् , तमाम नेपाली शिक्षाबाट बन्चीत नै थिए । तर २००७ साल पछि शिक्षाको लहर चलेकै थिए । तर तामाङ्हरुले शिक्षा प्रति ध्यान दिइएनन् । जव सम्म शिक्षित हुन सक्दैन तव सम्म आफू मानव हो कि होइन भन्न सम्म पनि सक्ने अवस्था आउँदैन । तामाङ्हरुको इतिहासलाई खोतल्ने हो भने आदिमकाल देखि करिब पाँच हजार वर्ष अघि देखि आदिबासीको रुपमा तामाङ्हरु नेपालमा रहँदै आएको देखिन्छ । तर विगत देखि वर्तमान सम्मलाई नियाल्ने हो भने कहिल्यै पनि यो जात्ति नीति निर्माण तहमा पुग्न सकेन । विगतलाई फर्केर हेर्दा २००७ सालको परिवर्तन पछि तामाङ्हरुले आफ्नो पनि अधिकार हुन्छ भन्ने कुरा त केही मात्रमा भए पनि बुझे तर अधिकार कसरी प्राप्त हुन्छ र यसलाई कसरी उपयोग गर्न सकिन्छ भन्ने कुरालाई भने बुझ्न सकिन । तामाङ्हरुको त्यहीँ कम्जोरीलाई प्रयोग गरी गैर–तामाङ्ले हामी तामाङहरु माथि शासन गर्दै आयो र हामी तामाङहरु सधैं सोसित र दमनको सिकार भइ नै रहृयौ । हरेक पटकको राजनीतिक परिवर्तनमा सक्रिया भूमिका निर्वहा गरे पनि परिवर्तन पछिको निर्णायक अवस्थामा तामाङ्हरु पाखा लागेकै देखिन्छ । यसको कारण हो तामाङ्को नेतृत्व तामाङ्ले नै गर्न नसक्नु र तामाङ्ग भित्रै गुडबन्दि हुनु र नेतृत्व गर्न खोज्नेलाई पनि स्वयं तामाङ् समुदायले नस्वीकार्नु र मै हुँ भन्ने टाठा–बाठा तामाङ्हरु पनि गैर–तामाङ्गको गुलामी भएर आफ्नै तामाङ् जाति माथि नै हैकम चलाउन खोज्नु जस्ता प्रवृतिका कारण पनि गैर–तामाङ्ले हामी तामाङ्ग जातिलाई थिचो मिचो गर्न सफल भएका छन् ।

२०४७ सालको परिवर्तन पछि प्रजातन्त्रको उदय भयो । प्रजातान्त्रिक परिपाटिमा जातजाती वा धर्म विशेसले कसैलाई ठूलो वा सानो गर्ने कानुनी व्यवस्था हुँदैन । राज्यको कानुन सबैलाई समान नै हुने हो । तर पनि हरेक परिवर्तनको लागि अग्र स्थानमा रही राष्ट्रको अग्र गामी परिवर्तनका निम्ति दिलो ज्यानले लडेका हामी तामाङ्हरु परिवर्तन पछिको समयमा फेरी गुम्नाममा रहेको देखिन्छ । अर्थात तामाङ्हरु त्यो स्थानमा कहिल्यै पुग्न सकिन जहाँ आफ्नो अधिकारलाई उपभोग गर्न सकोस् । आफ्नो अधिकारको उपयोग गर्न के गैर–तामाङ्ले रोके कै हो त ? मलाई लाग्दैन कि तामाङ्हरुलाई अरु जातजातिले अगाडि बढ्न नदिएको वा अगाडि बढ्नबाट रोकेको । किन भने हामीले कहिल्यै बुझेन वा बुझ्नै चाहेन कि हाम्रो अधिकार कुन्ठीत भइरहेको र हामीलाई अरुले ढालको रुपमा प्रयोग गरिरहेको छ भन्ने कुराको हामीले कहिल्यै भेउ पाउनै सकिन । फलस्वरुप हामी आफै अरुको लागि ढाल बन्छौं र हाम्रो सहदत र बलिदानले प्राप्त परिवर्तनमा मोजमस्ति अरुले गर्छ । फेरी हात थाप्छौं वा माग्छौं हामीलाई पनि अधिकार देउ भन्दै । त्यसैले परिवर्तन सबैको लागि समान हुन्छ ।

२०५८ को जनगणना अनुसार नेपालको कूल जनसंख्या २२,७३६,९३४ थियो । जस मध्ये तामाङ् जातिको जनसंख्या १,२८२,३०४ हो । यो कूल जनसंख्याको ५.६४ प्रतिशत हो । त्यस्तै २०४८ सालको जनगणना अनुसार तामाङ्को जनसंख्या १,०१८,२५२ थियो । २०४८ साल देखी २०५८ साल बिचको १० वर्षको अन्तरालमा तामाङ्को जनसंख्या २६४,०५२ जनाले वृद्धि भएको पाइयो । १० वर्षमा यो जातिको जनसंख्या वृद्धि दर २५.९ प्रतिशत रहेको पाइयो । यो वृद्धि दरलाई आधार मान्ने हो भने २०६८ साल सम्ममा तामाङ् जातिको जनसंख्या १,६१४,४२० पुग्ने पक्का छ । (केन्द्रीय तथ्याङ्क विभागको तथ्याङ्क गतिविधि २०५८÷५९ को आधारमा) । यी जातिको बसोबासको क्षेत्रगत हिसाबमा बाहुल्यतालाई हेर्दा काठ्माडौं उपत्यकाको काँठ् क्षेत्र लगायत काभ्रपाल्चोक, सिन्धुपाल्चोक, नुवाकोट, रसुवा, धादिङ, चितवन, मकवानपुर, रामेछाप, सिन्धुली, दोलखा लगायतका जिल्लाहरु तामाङ्हरुको प्रमुख बाहुल्यता रहेको क्षेत्र हुन् । यस क्षेत्रको कूल जनसंख्याको करिव ५८ प्रतिशत तामाङ् जातिले ओगटेको छ । अव राज्यका हरेक तहमा हरेक जातिको जनसंख्याको आधारमा समानु पातिक प्रतिनिधित्व गर्ने र गराउने भनेर नेपालका सबै राजनीतिक दलहरुले प्रतिवतता गरे पनि संविधान सभाको चुनाव मै त्यो पूरा भएको र गरेको पाइएन । ६०१ जना सभासद मध्ये तामाङ् सभासद जम्मा १७ जना मात्रै छन् । यसले २.८२ प्रतिशत मात्रै सभालाई ओगट्दछ । यसमा पनि प्रत्येक्ष निर्वाचनमा जितेको त ६ जना मात्रै हुन् । जनसंख्याको आधारमा समानु पातिक हुने हो भने कम्तिमा ३३ जनाले प्रतिनिधित्व गर्नु पर्ने थियो अहिलेको संविधान सभामा । तर त्यो अवस्था भएन ।

अव कसरी उठ्न सकिन्छ त तामाङ्हरु माथि ?
सर्वप्रथम त हामी तामाङ्गहरु एक जुट हुन सक्नु प¥यो र आफ्नो अधिकार, आफ्नो क्षेत्रको विकासको लागि स्वयं तामाङ् जातिबाटै नेतृत्व लिन सक्नु प¥यो र तामाङ्कै नेतृत्व हामी तामाङ्ले स्वीकार्न सक्नु प¥यो । तामांङ्को बाहुल्यता भएका जिल्लाहरुमा राष्ट्रको जुन सुकै चुनाव किन नहोस् तामाङ्ले नेतृत्व गर्नु प¥यो र त्यसलाई सबै तामाङ्ले स्वीकार्नु प¥यो । प्रजातन्त्रमा अन्य जो कोही उठ्न पाइन्छ , तर हाम्रो जनघनत्व भएको ठाउँमा तामाङ् उमेदवारले नै जित्ने हो । यदी तामाङ्ले मत दिने हो भने । जव सम्म तामाङ्ले तामाङ्को नेतृत्व स्वीकारेर तामाङ्लाई नै जिताउने कार्यमा साथ दिदैन र अरु कै झोला बोक्ने र व्यक्तिगत स्वार्थमा तामाङ्हरु लिप्त रहन्छ भने, तामाङ्को उन्नति र विकास अझै २०० सय वर्षमा पनि नहुन सक्छ ।


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Dal Bahadur DongPermalink Reply by Dal Bahadur Dong on June 16, 2011 at 3:55pm
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प्रसङले अहिलेको परीप्रेक्षमा जस्तो सुकै अर्थ लागे पनि वास्तविक कुरा त जग जाहेर छ नै किनकी हामी चौतर्फी रुपमा पिछडिएकाछौ। ईतिहास अध्ययन गर्दा हामी माथि तत्कालिन शाशक भनाउदाहरुले घोर अत्याचार तथा शोषन दमन गरेको उजागर हुन्छ। यसरी सोझो अनी सरल भाषामा भन्नु पर्दा हामीलाई अरुले नै पछी धकेलेका हुन र त्यो "अरु" भन्ने समुदाय अरु कोही नभै यसै मुलुकका हर्ता कर्ता भनाउदा शाशाकहरु हुन। हामी किन पछी परेका भन्दा उत्तर अली सरल रेखाबाट नजाने देखिन्छ। केही मित्रहरुले औंला भाचेर हामी पछी पर्नुका थुप्रै कारण दर्शाउनु भएकोछ भने कसै कसैले अन्य प्रसङहरु पनि जोडेकाछन। केही मित्रहरुले भने अबको समय परिवर्तन भईसकेको हुँदा नयाँ ढंगबाट सोच्नु पर्ने तर्कहरु अघी सरेकाछन। सबैले दिएका मतहरु सत्य हुन भन्ने मेरो बिचार हो तर म भन्छु के अब पनि हामीले आफ्नो हैसियत फेर्ने समय आएको छैन?

समय परिवर्तन भएकै हो किनकी ईतिहास हाम्रो सामु छ। २०४७ साले आम परिवर्तनले हामीलाई हाम्रो माटोमा मिलाइएको ईतिहासका पानाहरु पल्टाउन भरमग्दुर सहयोग गरेकै हो। मेरो आफ्नो अनुभवको आधारमा पनि हामीले यस् अवधिमा धेरै गुणात्मक फड्को मारिसकेकाछौ। आफ्नो सन्स्कार आफ्नो सन्स्क्रिती, आफ्नो विश्वाश अनी आफ्नो धर्म प्रतिको हाम्रो प्रगाढ सम्बन्धलाई बिस्तारै बिस्तारै दरिलो पार्दै लैजान सफल हुँदै आएकाछौ। "तर पनि" तैपनी भनेर दु:खको गीत गाए झै अझै पनि हामी मधेको एउटा विशाल समुदाय सभ्यताको प्रारम्भिक चरणबाट नै गुज्रिरहेकोछ जुन प्रसँगलाई काभ्रेसँग जोडेर बाबुलाल जीले पनि प्रस्तुत गर्नुभएकोछ। तर बाबुलाल जी, यो दु:खद र बिषम परिस्थितीको शिकार केवल काभ्रेका तमाङहरु मात्रै भएका छैनन; चारैतिरका तामाङहरु भएकाछन। अब किन पछी परेका हुन अनी कस्ले पछी परेका हुन भन्दा पनि अब कसरी हामीले हाम्रो जीवनस्तर उकस्ने हो त्यतातर्फ ध्यान केन्द्रित गर्नु पर्ने बेला आएकोछ।
आमुल परिवर्तनको खाचो बारे हामी अब चर्चा गरौ। हाम्रो समुदायमा कसरी परिवर्तन ल्याउने त्यस तर्फ सोचौ। किनकी हाम्रो समुदयको विशाल जमात खेतिपातिलाई जीवन यापनको पेशा बनाएर बाँच्न वाध्यछन। त्यसो त मैले कृषि क्षेत्रलाई नराम्रो भन्न खोजेको हैन तर नेपाल कृषि प्रधान मुलुक हुँदा हुँदै पनि यहाँका क्रिषकहरुको दिनचर्या अती दयनिय छ। १२ घण्टा तातो घामको रापमा जोतिदा पनि एक छाक टार्न सकेका छैनन हाम्रा किसाने समुदायले। जब आधारभुत आवश्यकताका कुराहरु प्राप्त गर्न यात्रो बिघ्न चुनौतीको सामना गर्नु पर्दछ कुनै समुदायले भने अब त्यस समुदायमा शिक्षा-स्वास्थ्य जस्ता कुराहरु अनी उन्नती प्रगतिका कुराहरु कसरी सम्भव होला त? छैन त कठिन?

हो, यही छ हाम्रो पछौटेपनको रहस्य लुकेको किन भन्नु हुन्छ भने हाम्रो जीवन यापनको आधार भन्नु नै खेतिपाती हो। हाम्रा सिदासादा पुर्ख्यौलीलाइ"साप्सि कि धोप्ता" यानी भुपतीको नौटन्की सिर्जेर हरुवा चरुवामा सिमित राख्ने कथित शाशकहरुलाई हामीले अब हामी वास्तविक भुपती नै हौ भनेर देखाउने समय आइसकेकोछ। यस्का निम्ती हामीले सर्व प्रथम हाम्रो अधेरो समुदायमा शिक्षाको उज्यालो ज्योति फैलाउन सक्नु पर्दछ। जनचेतनाका कार्यक्रमहरु लैजानु पर्दछ। शिक्षालाई अनिवार्य रुपमा हासिल गर्नु पर्दछ भन्ने कुराको बोध गराउन सक्नु पर्दछ। हाम्रो समुदायले शिक्षाको ज्योति पाएपछी हाम्रो समुदायमा अवश्य आउछ " आमुल परिवर्तन" तेस्मा कुनै शन्का छैन।

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